I do have to hand out much credit to her. To be able to bend glass like that, is a real art form.

Ira.



On 11/23/2024 10:33 AM, Miles Thatch wrote:
I'm not sure what is so dramatic about the bombarding process? Sure it's high voltages, as one would expect with this sort of manufacturing but if the young lady can do it with confidence, I don't see why full grown men here can't.

On Saturday, November 23, 2024 at 12:49:13 PM UTC-5 Instrument Resources of America wrote:

    I saw bombarding being done. I sit here now shaking and shuddering
    from the experience. Here is a fairly detailed video of neon sign
    manufacturing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH635AEawGY The
    bombarding process starts at about 12:30. The demonstration that I
    saw, they deliberately drew a two foot arc just for show. It was
    impressive, and S-C-A-R-R-Y. This may not help you with your
    endeavors, but it is interesting, and mentions 'neon' a number of
    times.

    Ira.



    On 11/22/2024 8:27 PM, gregebert wrote:

    Several years ago I researched neon signage, and you need a
    high-vacuum, around 1 micron (10-3 Torr). The books I have didn't
    get into specific vacuum levels, as there are multiple ways to
    cleanse the tubes, notably via bombarding. They did not cover
    nixie tubes.

    To get micron-level vacuum, you need a mechanical pump to get
    around 100 microns, followed by a diffusion pump. There might be
    other ways to get the required cleanliness without a diffusion
    pump, but I dont have any details. If you just want to do some
    experimenting, start with a mechanical pump. I plan to do that
    soon, as I have a small pump used for evacuating air conditioning
    equipment.

    Some of the reasons I'm not doing neon work are the cost of the
    equipment, the dangers of bombarding, need for mercury to extend
    tube life, and I expect it to be difficult to find getter
    material. All I want to do is get some sort of discharge glow,
    and play around with easy-to-find gases like argon and helium.

    I saw a mention in the Weston book of pressures in the 10-2 to
    10-4 Torr, though it covers theory of operation rather than
    fabrication details.
    On Friday, November 22, 2024 at 12:33:28 PM UTC-8 Miles Thatch wrote:


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