what to learn from it, how to understand it .... All the best Annie
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:02 PM Annie Abrahams <[email protected]> wrote: > What a beautiful text Adam. Thanks. > > The idea of living in the ruins of media art feels akward to me. Media > art, or at least part of the people concerned with it, tried to go beyond > the "art" system where money is the big thing, tried to make something > outside of canons and hierarchical systems. Furtherfield is part of that. > Media art had something revolutionary and I would like to keep that spirit, > with or with out the media and the internet. > Existing in the ruins of art as we knew it. > I wish it could be true. > How? > de-school, re-learn, re-turn, dare again > > I would love to have intimate conversations in small groups on subjects > that are important to me, but have no idea how to organise these in a way > that wouldn't be "exclusive". Intimate, means being few, and taking the > time to understand backgrounds, contexts etc. I also wouldn't like these > conversation to be recorded and available to all afterwards. But there > could be a kind of anarchive made by the participants consisting just of > notes and maybe some images. (an anarchive - a potential for continuation) > > Two subjects that actually bother, intrigue me are: > - Care and staying with trouble as attitude is excellent, was refreshing, > but isn't it also contra-productive, because it is not directed to "change" > ? > - the NFT craze, wh > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:05 AM Gretta Louw via NetBehaviour < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I find the notion of existing in the ruins of media art and the idea of >> the internet as a positive force absolutely compelling - electrifying >> really! >> >> >> Actually I think this is what all of my current work is doing. Thank you! >> >> >> Gretta >> >> >> On 9. Jun 2021, at 09:32, F3ydrus via NetBehaviour < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Ironically, I broke my long lurking silence on this list earlier today in >> response to Simon's 'cochineal' message, without yet having read the recent >> and ongoing discussion about the list, which included the question of who >> all these 600+ lurkers might be... Last night I had 2hrs to catch up on the >> whole genealogy of the recent explosion of posts, and then it was too late >> to write. I see further indication this morning of 'moving on' from the >> explosion, and a return of activity about other things, which is great. I >> hope another long response on this isn't too disruptive / painful. >> >> Like Johannes I found Ruth's "campfire in some unmanaged ancient >> woodland" analogy extremely resonant, partly because I too have been >> reconnecting with my local physical space + place over these past 15 >> months. In fact as we come out of lockdown in the UK I continue to get >> further connected locally. I live in Cornwall in the far south west and >> there aren't many great woodlands but some beautiful pockets, often inland >> away from the beaches (which I tend to avoid due to their popularity). I >> live in Penryn, an 800 year-old town where the most important work of >> literature in Cornish was written, the Ordinalia - mystery plays, now >> understood to have been played in the round in the so-called 'playing >> places' of Cornwall, circular arenas with raised embankments, in the >> pre-modern theatre era. The Ordinalia were written in a pre-Reformation lay >> college called Glasney College, which was a grand structure built on low >> damp ground near the old harbour (in what was once woodland). Since the >> destruction of the monasteries and the raiding of all the stones of Glasney >> by the townspeople, there is almost nothing left. Just the eponymous >> Glasney Field, a big open space that's been kept clear of construction for >> hundreds of years, and a fragment of an archway just outside the field in >> somebody's back garden. In the remaining woods nearby there are other >> larger but less significant ruins, from more recent times, overgrown and >> unattended. >> >> NetBehaviour strikes me as more than a campfire in the forest. It is a >> campfire *in a ruin* in the forest. The ruin of itself, of new media art, >> of the ideas of the web, of the internet as a positive force, and so on. >> Maybe don't knock it down, or clear all the weeds, or rebuild it. There is >> something intensely fertile about congregating in ruins. The most beautiful >> wedding I ever went to was in a ruined church open to the sky and floored >> with grass. We need ruins, to confront us with mortality. To remember. To >> connect with deep time. To think about what we want to build, perhaps >> elsewhere. >> >> As for the mysterious lurkers in the dark woods around the campfire, >> don't fear them. We are woodland creatures, attracted to the fire but >> nervous of it. We won't hurt you. I imagine we're pretty much all like me, >> nurtured and encouraged by the all-so-rare atmosphere of conviviality and >> consideration here. These ruins are beautiful and a good place to take >> inspiration, like Ruskin. By all means hold events in the ruin, concerts, >> processions (NetBehaviour Jitsi meets). But don't fear the forest, its >> labyrinthine paths and trackless undergrowth. Fear the clearing of woodland >> for commerce and the fenced path. The saddest forest experience I ever had >> was going to see the Old Oak in Sherwood Forest, Nottinghamshire. There was >> a low-fenced path from the visitor centre to the fenced-off tree. It was >> clear where to go. >> >> >> Warmest regards to you all, >> >> Adam Russell >> leelatrope.com >> >> >> >>
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