"The idea of civilisation is entangled, right down to its semantic roots, with city-dwelling"
where is the balance is the arts world? with the city and the urban. what is the position of the rural? under the attack of the encroaching cities/towns/urban/industrial from every angle. for me it is a privilege to feel included when reading this manifesto, rather than yet another art project focused on the urban. but don't worry, i'm not going to go out with clubs and bats and beat the shit out of those with the metropolitan mentality though :))) james. On 21/10/2009, "Michael Szpakowski" <[email protected]> wrote: >of course! looking forward to seeing how it develops and to participating... >m. > >--- On Wed, 10/21/09, marc garrett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: marc garrett <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO is back, but with a difference... >> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" >> <[email protected]> >> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 2:07 PM >> Hi Michael, >> >> I agree with much of what you say, and and very interested >> in seeing how >> it is explored by anyone on their terms local and >> non-local, networked >> or non-networked... >> >> I think that the ironies will be 'ironed' out (scuze pun) >> as the process >> of it all begins to expand, beyond the literature's remit >> thus showing >> alternative visions that take the theme yet in ways to >> allow a >> re-invention accordingly. >> >> I see that the DIWO aspect will bring light and >> ideas/imagination to it >> which conventional behaviours have not touched upon yet, >> lets see... >> >> marc >> > I'm sure this will be a really interesting project. >> The last DIWO thing was great. I am glad, however, that >> there is a question mark after the title. >> > I find stuff like this (from the manifesto): >> > >> > "The idea of civilisation is entangled, right down to >> its semantic roots, with city-dwelling, and this provokes a >> thought: if our writers seem unable to find new stories >> which might lead us through the times ahead, is this not a >> function of their metropolitan mentality? The big names of >> contemporary literature are equally at home in the >> fashionable quarters of London or New York, and their >> writing reflects the prejudices of the placeless, >> transnational elite to which they belong." >> > >> > profoundly worrying. The privileging of the local (and >> the imagined rural) in this way would have felt quite >> uncontroversial to Heidegger and his more thuggish friends >> and "metropolitan mentality and equally at home in ..London >> and New York" has for me a close to the nerve echo of >> "rootless cosmopolitanism" (Google it). >> > >> > I hope, furthemore, the irony of the call and much of >> the subsequent work and discussion taking place on the >> internet (which could only have meaning, let alone >> exist, at a certain level of civilisation) isn't lost on >> anyone. >> > >> > Of course none of that means it can't be a useful and >> interesting starting point for work. Of course it is. Let's >> keep our critical faculties sharp around any accompanying >> discussion though. >> > michael >> > >> > >> > >> > --- On Wed, 10/21/09, marc garrett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> From: marc garrett <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO is back, but with >> a difference... >> >> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed >> creativity" <[email protected]> >> >> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 1:17 PM >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> >> >> Excellent - it's going to be a 'THRILLER'... >> >> >> >> An update on the press release for this project - >> I will >> >> not let the >> >> outside world know about this till tomorrow >> afternoon now. >> >> >> >> There are couple of other factors which need >> ironing out >> >> before then, >> >> but I thought it would be useful to mention it >> before the >> >> intensity of >> >> it all suddenly just happens. >> >> >> >> wishing you well. >> >> >> >> marc >> >> >> >>> great marc >> >>> >> >>> I'll do something! >> >>> >> >>> dave >> >>> >> >>> 2009/10/21 marc garrett <[email protected]>: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> Hi Netnehaviourists, >> >>>> >> >>>> Well, DIWO is back again and as before, >> anyone can >> >>>> >> >> get involved. >> >> >> >>>> All contributions will be shown at the >> HTTP >> >>>> >> >> Gallery again - >> >> >> >>>> http://www.http.uk.net/ >> >>>> >> >>>> We will also have the same policy of open >> curation >> >>>> >> >> like last time, where >> >> >> >>>> people can view hanging via a web cam and >> chat on >> >>>> >> >> IRS, as well as other >> >> >> >>>> collaborators visiting the space on a >> selected >> >>>> >> >> day. >> >> >> >>>> There are 2 extra elements this time as >> well as >> >>>> >> >> the collaboration >> >> >> >>>> happening within the email list: >> >>>> >> >>>> 1 - we will be asking contributors to send >> work >> >>>> >> >> via snail mail >> >> >> >>>> (traditional postage), as well as/or >> alternately. >> >>>> >> >>>> And we have a theme this year: Do It With >> Others >> >>>> >> >> at the Dark Mountain? >> >> >> >>>> Before taking part we are asking everyone >> to read >> >>>> >> >> the Manifesto below: >> >> >> >>>> UNCIVILISATION THE DARK MOUNTAIN >> MANIFESTO >> >>>> http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/ >> >>>> >> >>>> Then contribute with the theme in mind... >> >>>> >> >>>> We will be releasing a press release to >> the rest >> >>>> >> >> of the world, and on >> >> >> >>>> this list later on. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> wishing you all well. >> >>>> >> >>>> marc >> >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > NetBehaviour mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >_______________________________________________ >NetBehaviour mailing list >[email protected] >http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
