james morris wrote:

> 
> but don't worry, i'm not going to go out with clubs and bats and beat
> the shit out of those with the metropolitan mentality though :)))

The urbanites seem to be handling that themselves anyway.

> 
> james.
> 
> 
> 
> On 21/10/2009, "Michael Szpakowski" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> of course! looking forward to seeing how it develops and to participating...
>> m.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 10/21/09, marc garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> From: marc garrett <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO is back, but with a difference...
>>> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 2:07 PM
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I agree with much of what you say, and and very interested
>>> in seeing how 
>>> it is explored by anyone on their terms local and
>>> non-local, networked 
>>> or non-networked...
>>>
>>> I think that the ironies will be 'ironed' out (scuze pun)
>>> as the process 
>>> of it all begins to expand, beyond the literature's remit
>>> thus showing 
>>> alternative visions that take the theme yet in ways to
>>> allow a 
>>> re-invention accordingly.
>>>
>>> I see that the DIWO aspect will bring light and
>>> ideas/imagination to it 
>>> which conventional behaviours have not touched upon yet,
>>> lets see...
>>>
>>> marc
>>>> I'm sure this will be a really interesting project.
>>> The last DIWO thing was great. I am glad, however, that
>>> there is a question mark after the title.
>>>> I find stuff like this (from the manifesto):
>>>>
>>>> "The idea of civilisation is entangled, right down to
>>> its semantic roots, with city-dwelling, and this provokes a
>>> thought: if our writers seem unable to find new stories
>>> which might lead us through the times ahead, is this not a
>>> function of their metropolitan mentality? The big names of
>>> contemporary literature are equally at home in the
>>> fashionable quarters of London or New York, and their
>>> writing reflects the prejudices of the placeless,
>>> transnational elite to which they belong." 
>>>> profoundly worrying. The privileging of the local (and
>>> the imagined rural) in this way would have felt quite
>>> uncontroversial to Heidegger and his more thuggish friends
>>> and "metropolitan mentality and equally at home in ..London
>>> and New York" has for me a close to the nerve echo of
>>> "rootless cosmopolitanism" (Google it).
>>>> I hope, furthemore, the irony of the call and much of
>>> the subsequent work and discussion taking place on the
>>> internet (which could only have meaning, let alone 
>>> exist, at a certain level of civilisation) isn't lost on
>>> anyone.
>>>> Of course none of that means it can't be a useful and
>>> interesting starting point for work. Of course it is. Let's
>>> keep our critical faculties sharp around any accompanying
>>> discussion though.
>>>> michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 10/21/09, marc garrett <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>> From: marc garrett <[email protected]>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO is back, but with
>>> a difference...
>>>>> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed
>>> creativity" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 1:17 PM
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Excellent - it's going to be a 'THRILLER'...
>>>>>
>>>>> An update on the press release for this project -
>>> I will
>>>>> not let the 
>>>>> outside world know about this till tomorrow
>>> afternoon now.
>>>>> There are couple of other factors which need
>>> ironing out
>>>>> before then, 
>>>>> but I thought it would be useful to mention it
>>> before the
>>>>> intensity of 
>>>>> it all suddenly just happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> wishing you well.
>>>>>
>>>>> marc
>>>>>      
>>>>>> great marc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll do something!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/10/21 marc garrett <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>     
>>>>>>        
>>>>>>> Hi Netnehaviourists,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, DIWO is back again and as before,
>>> anyone can
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> get involved.
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> All contributions will be shown at the
>>> HTTP
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> Gallery again -
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> http://www.http.uk.net/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will also have the same policy of open
>>> curation
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> like last time, where
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> people can view hanging via a web cam and
>>> chat on
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> IRS, as well as other
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> collaborators visiting the space on a
>>> selected
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> day.
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> There are 2 extra elements this time as
>>> well as
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> the collaboration
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> happening within the email list:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 - we will be asking contributors to send
>>> work
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> via snail mail
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> (traditional postage), as well as/or
>>> alternately.
>>>>>>> And we have a theme this year: Do It With
>>> Others
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> at the Dark Mountain?
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> Before taking part we are asking everyone
>>> to read
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> the Manifesto below:
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> UNCIVILISATION THE DARK MOUNTAIN
>>> MANIFESTO
>>>>>>> http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then contribute with the theme in mind...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will be releasing a press release to
>>> the rest
>>>>>>>          
>>>>> of the world, and on
>>>>>      
>>>>>>> this list later on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wishing you all well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> marc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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