Hi Michael,

But still, I think what you have mentioned adds a quality and position 
which asks for reasoning and act of being critical around one's 
engagement and decision in taking part - which Annie also mentioned.

It's important for balance of thought and expression, I can imagine them 
entwined with various other attributes...

marc


> of course! looking forward to seeing how it develops and to participating...
> m.
>
> --- On Wed, 10/21/09, marc garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: marc garrett <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO is back, but with a difference...
>> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 2:07 PM
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> I agree with much of what you say, and and very interested
>> in seeing how 
>> it is explored by anyone on their terms local and
>> non-local, networked 
>> or non-networked...
>>
>> I think that the ironies will be 'ironed' out (scuze pun)
>> as the process 
>> of it all begins to expand, beyond the literature's remit
>> thus showing 
>> alternative visions that take the theme yet in ways to
>> allow a 
>> re-invention accordingly.
>>
>> I see that the DIWO aspect will bring light and
>> ideas/imagination to it 
>> which conventional behaviours have not touched upon yet,
>> lets see...
>>
>> marc
>>     
>>> I'm sure this will be a really interesting project.
>>>       
>> The last DIWO thing was great. I am glad, however, that
>> there is a question mark after the title.
>>     
>>> I find stuff like this (from the manifesto):
>>>
>>> "The idea of civilisation is entangled, right down to
>>>       
>> its semantic roots, with city-dwelling, and this provokes a
>> thought: if our writers seem unable to find new stories
>> which might lead us through the times ahead, is this not a
>> function of their metropolitan mentality? The big names of
>> contemporary literature are equally at home in the
>> fashionable quarters of London or New York, and their
>> writing reflects the prejudices of the placeless,
>> transnational elite to which they belong." 
>>     
>>> profoundly worrying. The privileging of the local (and
>>>       
>> the imagined rural) in this way would have felt quite
>> uncontroversial to Heidegger and his more thuggish friends
>> and "metropolitan mentality and equally at home in ..London
>> and New York" has for me a close to the nerve echo of
>> "rootless cosmopolitanism" (Google it).
>>     
>>> I hope, furthemore, the irony of the call and much of
>>>       
>> the subsequent work and discussion taking place on the
>> internet (which could only have meaning, let alone 
>> exist, at a certain level of civilisation) isn't lost on
>> anyone.
>>     
>>> Of course none of that means it can't be a useful and
>>>       
>> interesting starting point for work. Of course it is. Let's
>> keep our critical faculties sharp around any accompanying
>> discussion though.
>>     
>>> michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 10/21/09, marc garrett <[email protected]>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>    
>>>       
>>>> From: marc garrett <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO is back, but with
>>>>         
>> a difference...
>>     
>>>> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed
>>>>         
>> creativity" <[email protected]>
>>     
>>>> Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 1:17 PM
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Excellent - it's going to be a 'THRILLER'...
>>>>
>>>> An update on the press release for this project -
>>>>         
>> I will
>>     
>>>> not let the 
>>>> outside world know about this till tomorrow
>>>>         
>> afternoon now.
>>     
>>>> There are couple of other factors which need
>>>>         
>> ironing out
>>     
>>>> before then, 
>>>> but I thought it would be useful to mention it
>>>>         
>> before the
>>     
>>>> intensity of 
>>>> it all suddenly just happens.
>>>>
>>>> wishing you well.
>>>>
>>>> marc
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>> great marc
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll do something!
>>>>>
>>>>> dave
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/10/21 marc garrett <[email protected]>:
>>>>>     
>>>>>        
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Hi Netnehaviourists,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, DIWO is back again and as before,
>>>>>>             
>> anyone can
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> get involved.
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> All contributions will be shown at the
>>>>>>             
>> HTTP
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> Gallery again -
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> http://www.http.uk.net/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will also have the same policy of open
>>>>>>             
>> curation
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> like last time, where
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> people can view hanging via a web cam and
>>>>>>             
>> chat on
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> IRS, as well as other
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> collaborators visiting the space on a
>>>>>>             
>> selected
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> day.
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> There are 2 extra elements this time as
>>>>>>             
>> well as
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> the collaboration
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> happening within the email list:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 - we will be asking contributors to send
>>>>>>             
>> work
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> via snail mail
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> (traditional postage), as well as/or
>>>>>>             
>> alternately.
>>     
>>>>>> And we have a theme this year: Do It With
>>>>>>             
>> Others
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> at the Dark Mountain?
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> Before taking part we are asking everyone
>>>>>>             
>> to read
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> the Manifesto below:
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> UNCIVILISATION THE DARK MOUNTAIN
>>>>>>             
>> MANIFESTO
>>     
>>>>>> http://www.dark-mountain.net/about-2/the-manifesto/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then contribute with the theme in mind...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will be releasing a press release to
>>>>>>             
>> the rest
>>     
>>>>>>          
>>>>>>             
>>>> of the world, and on
>>>>      
>>>>         
>>>>>> this list later on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wishing you all well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> marc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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