It did come through; I didn't reply because it seems very black and white.
It's not all from North America. It's not all from the US, and I can't
respond to something like this. Apologies, Alan
On Mon, 18 Oct 2010, Andreas Maria wrote:
Apparently this does not got through, I try again
Begin forwarded message:
From: Andreas Maria <[email protected]>
Date: 18 October 2010 09:53:57 CEST
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] From today...
Harnessed Silence?
Kant was right, Debord was wrong; 'there was never a revolution',
Debord: 'the revolte of bored middle class kids'
Hakim Bey: ibidem
The 'sixties' and its mental / cultural uprising ended with the regime
of Pol Pot and did not progress afterwards
Not in Europe and not in North America
Maybe Anna is right in going to Uruqay, at least there are unseen
possibilities out of reach im the so called 'Rich Countries'
I live in Amsterdam with partner and children and am seriously
thinking about relocating to a rural village near the former 'Iron
Curtain'.
Why?
Because there are unseen and forgotten oppurtunities neglected by the
mad drivening constraints urban life had to offer, like a slower, more
natural tempo, a better developed attitude towards reusing scarce
resources
And yes it is very difficult to maintain a life when being pushed
around by the 'Ueber-Rich', but why they tend to come from North
America?
Neo liberalism (Jefferson/Toqueville/Smith) is the worst thing this
Earth ever has come across and why it comes from North America?
Bill Gates (the ueber ueber ueber american richie) is financing Black
Water through its charity program!!!!
Chinese security firms based on American manegerial models are hired
by the Chinese government to kidnap and brutalize their opponents
Dutch Neo Nazi Wilders is destroying the once famous Dutch tolerance,
assisted by stagiairs educated in American liberal academic millieus
American culture has something very scary in its thinking, based on
individual freedom it is constantly fighting the rest, ie everyone who
is nor me
There used to be slogans in every European city after WWII it said:
'Yankees go home!'
Why?
Because after liberating Europe they took our freedom with them
It is a Sad Sad Song
'...Berlin at the walls, they 've taking her children away, because
she was not a good mother...'
Lou Reed - Berlin
Andreas Maria Jacobs
'Politics is the Architecture of Death'p
w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
On 18 Oct 2010, at 01:44, Ana Vald?s <[email protected]> wrote:
That's to returning to Uruguay is depending of a lot of
factors, I am very engaged in different questions,
Palestine, par example. I visited Ramallah, Jerusalem and
Tel Aviv the last Summer. Everyone there tells me in
different depressed ways_ "we are depending of the
Americans, if the taxpayers should wake up and see how
their money is spent supporting 400000 settlers."
The same settlers Obama and Hillary Clinton say they want
to stop.
I am so tired of political hypocrisy and people's
indiference.
Ana
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Alan Sondheim
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
When are you returning to Uruguay?
This conversation, at least for me, _is_ our
living situation; it's not
separate from the contruction across the
street, my ill health, the
homeless everywhere, the uber-rich driving
people out of their homes.
We live here. In a country where people think
Obama is a secret Muslim who
is not an American citizen.
And what _does_ one do about depression? I
have my own nightmares, but
they're compounded by what this country is
becoming.
- Alan
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Ana Vald?s wrote:
> Hi Marc, Ruth and other active Netbehaviourists:
> I wonder if this ongoing conversation is or will be kept
indepentely from
> our living situation or are we only able to communicate
because we live in
> the so called First World and enjoy cheap computers and
huge broadband.
> I am myself seriously planning to go back to live in
Uruguay, the country
> where I was born in and a place where I has not lived in
the last 32 years.
> As many maybe know I spent four years in jail for
political reasons when I
> was very young and I was deported to Sweden, where I
been living since then.
> Funny, the other day I participated in a meeting for
writers (I am a writer)
> in Stavanger, Norway, together with one of the injust
jailed Maguire 6,
>
http://www.shahrazadeu.org/nb/content/kapittel-forgiveness-and-memory
> and we discussed the common memories we shared, as
writers being former
> political prisoners.
> I am tired of Sweden (160000 voters voted for a party of
extrem right which
> discourse is "we want get Sweden back". back to the
50:s, to an homogenius
> monocultural backyard country, tired of seeing some
tendences in the whole
> Europe, France, Italy, Spain, Danmark, Finland, Norway,
Germany.
> Yes, we have small pockets of resistance and struggle,
but the social
> ,movements seems for now being in frank recess.
> What do you think, do we have a chance to revert this
sad process?
>
> If not, I wish you welcome to Uruguay, where the voters
have elected a man
> who spent 13 years in jail for political reasons. And he
is the only
> president in the world driving a Volkswagen from the
70:s and still living
> in the small farm outside Montevideo where he and his
wife (former jail
> comrade with me) gew flowers to earn their life when
they were released from
> prison, 1985.
>
> Ana, a bit depressed
>
>
>
>
> http://anavaldes.wordpress.com,
> http://passagenwerk.wordpress.com
> http://caravia.stumbleupon.com
> http://www.crusading.se
> Gondolgatan 2 l tr
> 12832 Skarpn?ck
> Sweden
> tel +468-943288
> mobil 4670-3213370
>
>
> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk
the earth with your
> eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there
you will always long
> to return.
> ? Leonardo da Vinci
>
>
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