I don't want to justify attitudes in the US and can't speak for Rhizome 
for that matter but I do want to say that what's going on here - Wikileaks 
is not as important or violent as some of the other things going on. Some 
examples - Obama keeping the Bush onslaught on the Environmental 
Protection Agency in place; his backing the Bush tax cuts for the rich; 
the failure of health-care; the daily dose of ugly racism and ignorance 
from the heart of the Republican party; the increase in violent crime (at 
least here in NY) and increase in homelessness; the long soup kitchen 
lines; the arrogance of the rich and railroading of grass-roots 
organizations; the onslaught against immigration and "anchor babies"; the 
constant lies and viciousness of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and others; the 
constant war in Afghanistan and clandestine wars elsewhere; the ugliness 
of a Congress that can't even grant the 9/11 workers decent healthcare; 
the hatred of Muslims; the national debt creating an economy tottering on 
the brink of chaos; minor things like open season for bear hunting in New 
Jersey; the closing of firehouses and other basic care facilities in NYC; 
in other words, the unraveling of a fundamental social fabric that allows 
folks to think about things like Wikileaks; and this sort of news goes on 
daily. We're now 25th in education, 40th in infant mortality; way down in 
quality of life indices; 17th or 18th in terms of lifespan; highest by a 
factor of 2 or 3 in health-care costs; and so forth. I support Wikileaks 
and associated groups; but I worry about suicidal friends, ill friends, 
friends in despair more; and this is where a lot of my mental energy goes. 
This may not explain anything, but it's the best I can do.

- Alan

On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, marc garrett wrote:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> > Subversion is not a political attitude, it is a way of life...
>
> Being a decent human being is considered either negative or a criminal
> activity in itself.
>
> I have not noticed many art groups in the UK other than ourselves and
> Mute, discussing all these issues as openly.
>
> Across the sea, Rhizome.org in America is 'silent' regarding the
> wikileaks or student cuts around the world - I would of hoped the
> individuals who run the platform would be brave enough to activate some
> kind of dialogue around it. And I suppose, what it tells me is that,
> they do not care enough to push these things into the public for mutual
> dialogue. Yes, I know it may threaten funding, but we have the same
> problems here.
>
> Next week live on Resonance fm, our last broadcast this year - we are
> holding a minute silence 'live' on the radio to mourn the death of
> education.
>
> All this stuff threatens the existence of furtherfield and the space we
> have in London plus many projects we are involved in, most of them
> socially engaged - and that's what the government wants to happen.
>
> And all those peer 'art' groups who do not openly challenge the powers
> that be will be invested in, such as those similar to Rhizome.org
> because they tow the line - and lets not forget that this is not just a
> national issue, it is an international, neoliberlist attack on
> humanities. And I will not 'ever' forgive those who have so conveniently
> kept silent, when as others have at least tried to make real changes in
> culture; deeper than promoting top-down artists and institutional
> drone-art, and product and technologically determined (so called) art,
> conveyor belt products. Techno-bling is boring, boring, boring, and shallow.
>
> We have already been warned to stop discussing the current crisis
> regarding cuts and the neoliberlaist situation with our own community,
> by friends who are well connected to others in power, who are watching
> us - and it really feels strange and distressing to know that by openly
> discussing this with you and others, that I may be risking the future of
> our independent, creative and brilliant individuals and groups who are
> part our networked communities...
>
> wishing you well.
>
> marc
>
>
> >
> > Shame on our justice systems and the prosecution of our idealistic
> motivated youth, which are threatened all over the world by the
> fillistines called judges
> >
> > More examples of injustice in our so called democracies:
> >
> > Hungary:
> >
> > Asisstence given by child birth at home, imprisoned until at least
> January 2011
> >
> > Source : chtodelat
> >
> > Us Chigaco
> >
> > Three young women accused of travelling to Palestine put on trial by
> the FBI
> >
> > Source: hufftington post
> >
> > And so it goes on and on and on
> >
> > What is there to stop falling in a cynical state of mind and a
> profound sadness about the failure of the human project?
> >
> > How to survive in a bitter and cold world without shared ethical and
> moral principles ?
> >
> > I am deeply depressed by the current situation and can hardly believe
> it will be better during my lifetime
> >
> > Liberators turn out to be ursurpators in the very end
> >
> > Andreas Maria Jacobs
> >
> > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
> > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
> >
> > On 11 Dec 2010, at 11:24, marc garrett
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Angles On Anonymous.
> >>
> >> "A number of readers are sending in links related to Anonymous, the
> >> Internet phenomenon ??? don't call them a group ??? behind the
> controversial
> >> DDoS attacks on commercial entities that fail to support WikiLeaks. The
> >> best insight into Anonymous comes from the Economist's Babbage blogger,
> >> who hung out in one of their IRC channels
> >> (http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/more_wikileaks). Reader
> >> nk497 points out that UK users looking to join Anonymous's DDoS army
> >> should be aware they could face a jail term of up to two years
> >>
> (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/363523/wikileaks-protest-tool-could-carry-two-year-jail-stretch);
> >> simply downloading the LOIC software used in the DDoSing could suffice
> >> to earn a conviction. One 16-year-old has been arrested
> >>
> (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/first-arrest-made-in-wikileaks-revenge-attacks.ars)
> >> in The Netherlands and is charged with participating in the DDoS. Reader
> >> ancientribe sends in coverage of a claim by one security outfit that
> >> several existing criminal botnets have joined forces
> >>
> (http://www.darkreading.com/database-security/167901020/security/attacks-breaches/228800076/botnet-operators-set-to-join-operation-payback.html)
> >> with Anonymous's Operation: Payback. And reader Stoobalou notes a
> >> Thing.co.uk story on a manifesto of sorts
> >>
> (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/12/10/who-are-anonymous-and-what-do-they-want/)
> >> that purports to come from "ANON OPS," even though Anonymous disclaims
> >> any central spokesperson or entity - press release here
> >> (http://dump.no/files/467072ba2a42/ANONOPS_The_Press_Release.pdf) PDF."
> >> From Slashdot.org
> >>
> >> wishing you well.
> >>
> >> marc
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