...you ask is that excuse to kill in Libya but not in Syria or vice verse!...you never ask your self what-a-fuck your people doing in Libya,Syria,EX-Yugoslavia,West Africa...!?!no professor!NATO is heap of professional killer who work for decadent West because West have no idea how to survive without WAR as best market investment...West is full of people like you who are intellectual miscarriage full of false questions and far away from any ethic consideration of recent happenings in world...your question should be :what can i do to stop that hypocrisy when best armed power on the world/NATO/ kill all over the world,what can i do to stop them to destroy Others way of live,Others life,Others children life,Other material goods?for tiny and noneducated *me* who couldn't understand fucking nothin even if that 'nothing'fall om your head as clear sentence...what can i/*you*/ do to tell to my pupil what's real problem in our world today...not to spread lie in my own body and soul like hardest poison/is that good to support *Bosnia*for example)which fuck Bosnia?...did you ever hear i say that i use to support UK...and to hear from you- which UK:Scotland,Irish,Shetland ...why you are you so rude and have no upbringing to shut-fuck-up when adult talk.what's your idea about racism? you think Obama is USA president,situation in world's change because of that...you 'have eye to see nothing'/Lacan/...Obama is president and he has Nobel price for piece because West want to destroy African way of life and Obama is Troy horse for Afro-americans because he's black and Africans who believe in Obama honesty...there's no honesty in politics even non-educated ''professor'' like you are should know that...inplantate them their*democracy*,install their second hand class of managers/garbage from your bureau for workess, ambassador who can't properly wipe ass and who are so stupid that land become red-shame when they walk on...West is worst world destroyer and social riot in West are so funny because WE /people under ocupation,we -slave of West retrograde slave-owned-ideology work for West...we pay your bills...but you want more and more...material goods instead to demand work where you could earn for living without exploitation of rest of the world...West have philosopher Zizek who say 'NATO is left hand of God',who say 'there's some divine justice in NATO bombing Serbia...Stupid motherfucker-what if NATO put some bomb on his Slovenia...West get most of heroine from Kosovo /part of Serbia/under USA occupation than ever...it's very lucrative business for USA because human garbage/drugs addict/pay for their death,they are not-wanted in racist USA society,dealer goes in prison,money pay for drugs goes for state administration/that's the way we in Serbia trough our temporary loose of our teritory -Kosovo...that's the way we pay USA and part of NATO expensies...i want you to know 'techne' they use not to spread false dilemma as you did with*Bosnia*support...it would be better for you if you said :''I support support...''There's more metaphysics material than in your 'pragamtic' supporting of nothing/nothing is not ontologic category here,it's your intelectual status,nothing's in yout head.../ and only WASP people as worst post-ideology junk maintenance illusion of order in country...they dig hole and cover them like victims in nazi-prison-camp do,they dig hole and get 'false $' for that that because USA is/i suppose even you know/biggest lazy vagabond in whole world...fascism is winer...every country in EU who were connected with nazi ideology- Croatia,France,Bulgaria,Romania,Slovenia...etc...countries from ex USSR near Baltic sea...etc...are in one happy UE familly...who is in UE/but not Serbs!because they bit nazis like nobody else in Europe in IIw.w except Russian...but they/antinayi,anti-fascist/ are aristocracy for West...you should wisper when you mentioned their name because they loose 20 billion people for your white ass to hate them because you ARE nazi but they are not....and Serbs are not nazi...we are punished/UE trow us ad marginem/, now, but now we don't want EU anymore...find cheep slave in Obama's Africa..they are going to be happy to serve their cousins from other side of Pacific for free..even more-they going to give them their oil as reward for make ruins of their country/Libya/...in few month Libyan people are going to crying and call trough tears Gaddafi's time of easy living...''rebels'' are going to be their beater...only BLOOD,POVERTY AND HUNGER for people under NATO boot...oil for soft-ass West bloodsucker...just tell me if you want some more lessons/but not for free anymore Herr Professor/...i can't wait to see your answer...it's going to be brilliant add to history of human disgraceful...i could feel that...MANIK...SEPTEMBER...2011... ----- Original Message ----- From: "manik" <[email protected]> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Horror Episodes in the Net.Art History
You,actually wrote nonsense.If you tell us that you've support Bosnian fight for freedom you should tell us which Bosnia.Theres/there was in that time you talking about...and still is/for your information/Bosnia who 'belong' to Serbs- Republika Srpska, Bosnia who 'belong' to Muslims/so called Muslim Entity/ and part of Bosnia 'draft' by Croatian .You just can't tell which *freedom*you have been support because there's no Serb Orthodox Freedom,there's no Muslims Muslim freedom and theres no Croatian Catholic freedom.For clever man that quantity of inforamtions could be more than enough.For dilettante as you are all books on the world about that issue won't be enough.Secret is in beginning...MANIK...SEPTEMBER...2011... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Biggs" <[email protected]> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Horror Episodes in the Net.Art History ...and indicative of how history repeats itself. I am sure that (whilst most, if not all, of us on this list are to the left) there are mixed opinions over what has happened in Libya and what should be done (for example) in Syria or Palestine or, for that matter, how we should handle the current sovereign debt crisis. In the 1990's emotions ran high over what happened as Yugoslavia broke up. Sometimes, even when you didn't seek it, you ended up on one side or another. I supported Bosnia's bid for freedom and got involved in initiatives there, as well as helping out refugees in the UK. I also chose to show my work in Slovenia and Croatia during the period of the Balkan wars, again because I supported their independence. However, I doubt I'd have worked in Serbia during that period (I've shown work there since 2000). Some people had an issue with that at that time, including friends. Some probably still would. I was in Zagreb a few weeks ago and was struck how that conflict is still raw and live. However, the big debate was not about the war but about whether Croatia should join the EU. Some people I spoke with said they would like to see the old Yugoslavia back and consider Serbia as their natural partner (and the EU, dominated by Germany, as their foe). I know the history there is extremely complex. We have (since the 19th Century) the English verb "Balkanise" (to fragment and engender conflict in something), indicating that this is not a recent phenomenon. The word has its roots in the conflict between the Ottomans and Austro-Hungarians and thus, in a way, the situation goes back to the division of the Roman Empire into Eastern and Western zones. That is getting on for two millennia ago. That's a lot of baggage. best Simon On 10 Sep 2011, at 15:17, marc garrett wrote: > Hi Andrej, > > What I found strange, is that I have met you personally and know that > the picture painted of you at the time is completely different... > > Some have asked why is it being discussed now - as in the NN thing? > > I am not sure how to answer this, other than, it was part of my own > networked history also and it is one of those moments in time that > younger generations should observe and then consider themselves, on > their own terms - reflection is an important thing... > > chat again. > > marc > >> Hi Marc, >> >>> I was on Syndicate around this time - still on the list & have had all >>> kinds of discussions through the years - mostly pretty tense. >> >> I know you were around Syndicate at that time, like most of the > NetBehaviour >> list members, at Nettime too, I am still at Syndicate list, but was > kicked >> from Nettime back in 1998 as I documented in my Horror Net.Art History. >> >>> I am wondering how you feel now that time has passed - what have you >>> learned this period and if the same thing happened now, would you react >>> differently? >> >> I feel still bitterness, betrayed and disappointed after that what has >> happened >> at Nettime, but I am glad that those crooks have shown their real faces >> then, and that public is aware of that. I think nothing has changed since >> then. Before it was Yugoslavia, later Iraq, Afghanistan, now it is Libya, >> Egypt, Syria etc. Soros, CIA, MI6 and Al-Qaeda are doing their dirty > job. I >> keep on reacting, maybe in a more subtle way. >> >> >>> wishing you well. >> >> Wish you well too. >> Andrej >> >> >>> marc >>>> Reminder of Nettime, Syndicate ... and Netochka Nezvanova >>>> >>>> http://www.atisma.com/webart/netart%20history/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > Simon Biggs | [email protected] | www.littlepig.org.uk [email protected] | Edinburgh College of Art | University of Edinburgh www.eca.ac.uk/circle | www.elmcip.net | www.movingtargets.co.uk _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
