The fact there is nobody out there offering their services to write grants applications to the ACE suggests that there would be little profit in doing so.
best Simon On 7 Nov 2011, at 16:17, dave miller wrote: > Or is there an opportunity here for "no Arts Council funding no fee" > services - following the idea of those insurance experts who advertise > on afternoon TV and specialise in victim compensation? I'm being > cynical I suppose ... > > dave > > > > On 7 November 2011 14:55, Simon Biggs <[email protected]> wrote: >> Most times I've been successful in acquiring Arts Council funds it has been >> through indirect means - somebody applying on my behalf, usually through a >> commissioning body (gallery, producer, festival, etc). The people who hold >> responsible positions in such organisations are expert grant writers and >> have a much better hit-rate than 2.5%. If that is the likely success rate >> then I'd tend to feel it is not worthwhile applying. You need a better >> likelihood than that. Even 10% is marginal. 20% is about when it starts to >> get worthwhile, in terms of the odds. >> One of the main reasons I shifted from being a freelance artist to working >> in academia was due to issues around funding. During the 80's and 90's I'd >> been lucky with ACE, British Council and other funders. But in the late 90's >> the new government changed the focus of arts funding, which resulted in many >> of the key funding avenues being closed down (like the new film fund - which >> happily funded new media projects with reasonably serious amounts of money). >> The writing was on the wall and the research councils started to look like a >> better bet, with relatively generous fellowships available, as well as >> medium to large project funds being available to creative practice based >> projects, especially if technology was involved (eg: six or seven figures). >> Things are more competitive now, with less money available and more >> applicants than ever, but the hit-rate is still better than 10% and, for >> some funds, much better than that. Follow-on funding, for those who have >> already held research council funds, is better than 50/50. >> State funding of the arts is in a dire situation now and it is little >> surprise that many feel it is pointless to apply - but if you look at it >> another way, somebody has to apply and you can't win it if you aren't in >> it. I'd recommend you develop a relationship with one or more sponsoring >> organisations that can work with you on developing a relationship with the >> funders. They need to know you a bit, understand what you are doing and why >> and to develop a trust based relationship. In hard times they are even more >> risk averse than normal. >> best >> Simon >> >> On 7 Nov 2011, at 12:09, dave miller wrote: >> >> I'm guilty of this - have never applied for funding. I always assume I'd >> never get any and with the scale of the cuts going on, I've more or less >> forgotten that funding even exists! >> dave >> >> >> On 7 November 2011 11:45, marc garrett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Arts funding: why so many artists don't apply for the money. >>> >>> Dany Louise introduces a report she wrote on arts funding that reveals >>> some surprising statistics. >>> >>> "The key finding is that surprisingly few individual artists apply for >>> money in their own right and even fewer are successful. In England, less >>> than 5% of artists apply in their own name every year and of those, less >>> than 2.5% are successful. This means that there is little direct funding >>> being given to artists to pursue and develop their own projects, under >>> their own control: under 20% of available funding for the visual arts in >>> England, 14% for Northern Ireland and around 18% for Scotland and Wales >>> in 2009-2010." >>> >>> >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture-professionals-network/culture-professionals-blog/2011/nov/04/arts-funding-artists-dont-apply >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> Simon Biggs >> [email protected] www.littlepig.org.uk @SimonBiggsUK skype: >> simonbiggsuk >> [email protected] Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh >> www.eca.ac.uk/circle www.elmcip.net www.movingtargets.co.uk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > Simon Biggs [email protected] www.littlepig.org.uk @SimonBiggsUK skype: simonbiggsuk [email protected] Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh www.eca.ac.uk/circle www.elmcip.net www.movingtargets.co.uk _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
