Thanks Ana, o valueble to hear your thoughts but occupation is the same case here, or statelessness, the kurds have no state, no rights
I was always a hard core pacifist, my father was an East German army officer and i was terrified of overflying war planes and I am absolute against war & violence, post Hitler-Soviet schooled, and I am still very much a hard core pacifist now, pro diplomatic, justice, women involvement in solutions, education etc but if we make exceptions like the palestinian one, and I agree their case is very difficult the same counts for Kurds which are victim to terrible oppression ? if a women chooses to fight for an independet cause, not for an imperialistic state (like israel maybe) but to defend her very right to exist ? i want to add 2 links, one is even american reporting, but good in this case good link by women on women https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcT8Q_6wtLo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcT8Q_6wtLo> summary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPwZGHivQSQ <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPwZGHivQSQ> thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, i would like to ask permission to share this with another mailing list called female pressure, we are musicians and media people, and discussing a solidarity campaign righ now is it ok ? thanks > On 14 Dec 2015, at 16:30, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear thanks for your answer. When I was much younger I believed in “just > wars” and was jailed four years for belonging to the Tupamaros guerilla, you > must know about it since Baader-Meinhof had Tupamaros as inspiration 😊 > It was an armed gerilla and to my disclaim I can say today I was only 19 > years old, new examinated from a very stern German nun’s school I had a > highly romantized image of Che Guevara as icon and etc etc > Today I am a stern pacifist and the only resistance I understand its the > Palestinian because they are occupied for a foreign power and they have right > to fight for their land. > > > Cheers > Ana > > > De: AG Forever > Enviado: lunes, 14 de diciembre de 2015 5:42 > Para: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > Asunto: Re: [NetBehaviour] #rojava > > Hi Ana, I always thought like that, I remember how my country / East Germany > didn't last cause the reason to control people with violence in one place is > not lasting.... > > This is an interesting article although half a year old, and the comments > confuse me very much re FGM. > https://www.opendemocracy.net/arab-awakening/evangelos-aretaios/rojava-revolution > > I would in any moment agree with you but if you can't even hold a territory > and your choice is sex slave or combat fighter, I know what I would choose... > ? > > But then there is their revolution. There intentions, their goals.. > > > "In the wider Middle East since the nineteenth century and before that, the > female body is one of the most important symbolic battlegrounds between > modernizers and reactionaries. Today, here in Syria, this fight is to death. > “The gangs of Daesh want the woman to be a slave. They don’t consider us as > human beings but only as objects to serve men and to satisfy his specific > needs. They ostentatiously sell women as slaves as if they were animals”. The > girl I speak with is Nupelda, 20 years old and serves in a mobile company of > the Women’s Protection Units (YPJ) on the front line. This is the army of > women in the autonomous administration of Rojava, fighting side by side with > men in the YPG. Both forces are under the control and command of PYD. Nupelda > has been fighting for two years now." > > I am thinking how to call for solidarity for Rojava revolution and eventually > lift of PKK ban in EU... > > just thoughts... > > ********* > AGF: @poemproducer / .com > in order: antyegreie.com > > > On 9 Dec 2015, at 01:59, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was as many of you know at the conference of Women in Black in India. Women > from Afghanistan Congo Bosnia and Armenia shared with us dark stories of rape > forced marriages and impunity we need to strengthen the civil societies the > question is how to achieve it? If the changes are made with weapons and > soldiers (female or male), we are always prisoners of the weapons and wars as > metaphors... > Ana > > Den 6 dec 2015 08:11 skrev "AGF poemproducer" <a...@poemproducer.com>: > hi, > > I spent last days reading and studying the kurdish female fighters and their > efforts to built an independent equal and just state in north east syria… i > am a pacifist in my deepest structure but have been challanged and confused > by what is happening there… if you need to read up look for hashtags #Rojava > > any thoughts ? > > (i find this article a good sum up) > > http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/11/25/rojava_is_a_radical_experiment_in_democracy_in_northern_syria_american_leftists.html > > "I recently spoke to someone from the Kurdish women’s movement in Rojava and > asked what they need most. She said they need a massive international > solidarity campaign, beginning with political education about the evolution > of the PKK and its politics, including its emphasis on democratic governance, > anti-sectarianism, secularism, ecology, and women’s liberation. In practical > terms, they need all possible international pressure to be put on Turkey and > the KRG to end the embargo and let supplies through. They need the terrorist > designation to be lifted so they can travel and raise money and do public > speaking." > > some more… > > http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/<http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/02/remembering-murray-bookchin/> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Protection_Units<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Protection_Units > > maybe this is also a good thing/ althought americans all over this, but maybe > for the right reasons for a change > https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Presidents_Obama_and_Hollande_Prime_Ministers_Cameron_and_Turnbull_Help_the_Kurds_cut_off_ISILs_route_to_Europe/?wTXkYjb > > http://thelionsofrojava.com/index.php/join/ > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
