Well, I'd like to see all the issues that have been filed during the NetCAT program.
I'd also somehow like to see which ones really need to be fixed, which ones can no longer be reproduced in 10-vc2 (maybe everyone in NetCAT can check whether all their issues can still be reproduced in NetCAT and then add a 'NetCAT 10' label so we can collect then all), which ones need to be prioritized, etc. Gj On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jiří Kovalský <[email protected]> wrote: > Why do we need such filter? > > -Jirka > > Dne 2.11.2018 v 04:20 Leo Donahue napsal(a): > > > Good question, I was wondering if we should have been using JIRA labels > > for NetCAT 9 and 10 issues. That would allow you to filter. > > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the NetCAT > >> program? > >> > >> Gj > >> > >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander, > >>> > >>> here are my thoughts. > >>> > >>>> 1. Tickets in strange state > >>>> > >>>> The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay attention to > >>>> bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are gone. With > >>>> the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address each > >>>> issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev team is > >>>> you. > >>> > >>> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people who have > no > >>> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, HTML, > >> C/C++). > >>> > >>>> Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own > >>>> misunderstanding how open source software development works. Good news > >>>> is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying to > >>>> reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and setting > their > >>>> status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do that? > >>> > >>> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated to the > >>> process) that we should focus on testing only. > >>> > >>> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no > dedicated > >>> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for developing > >>> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't raise > this > >>> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, the > >> landscape > >>> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it. > >>> > >>>> 2. Tribe leaders are useless > >>>> > >>>> I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset for > >>>> NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their tribe > >>>> members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing the > work > >>>> load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding about > >>>> incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious ones to > >>>> the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If these do > >>>> not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program coordinators > >>>> which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT participants with > >>>> impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration. > >>> > >>> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are still > >>> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time that > much. > >>> > >>> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports summarizing > >>> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew where it > was > >>> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that NetCAT was > >>> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for themselves > how > >> to > >>> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, suits me > >>> better :) > >>> > >>> Michal > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>> > >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=bav55yn4OB_qRWlPyg-3eJxbD1-VSSiM3rlfkRSmb04&s=F_nGJasZFETJzbaEQ5jlaHNRp9JVwzJm8vodU36w0M4&e= > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
