Makes perfect sense, use the survey to indicate which issues you're most concerned about.
Gj On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:53 PM Jiří Kovalský <[email protected]> wrote: > I would suggest to identify then with BLOCKER severity. > > -Jirka > > Dne 2.11.2018 v 12:46 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a): > > Sure, fair enough, the problem though is how to identify them in the > issue > > tracker. > > > > Gj > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:33 PM Sasha Alexander Romanenko < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> That defeats purpose of issue tracker. This information needs to be > readily > >> available on report or query, not dispersed emails. > >> > >> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г., 7:30 Geertjan Wielenga > >> [email protected]: > >> > >>> Maybe one way to approach this would be to ask everyone in NetCAT to > >> list 3 > >>> of the issues they filed that they'd prioritize for fixing over all > >> others, > >>> regardless of whether they're blockers, i.e., simply 'my world would > be a > >>> good deal better if the following 3 were to be fixed', just add them > as a > >>> response in this thread. > >>> > >>> Gj > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:28 PM Alexander Romanenko < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I was setting "affected version" to 10 for my issues - it looked like > >>> that > >>>> was the label for this iteration of testing, so could maybe search by > >>> that > >>>> too. > >>>> > >>>> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:18, Geertjan Wielenga > >>>> <[email protected]>: > >>>> > >>>>> Well, I'd like to see all the issues that have been filed during the > >>>> NetCAT > >>>>> program. > >>>>> > >>>>> I'd also somehow like to see which ones really need to be fixed, > >> which > >>>> ones > >>>>> can no longer be reproduced in 10-vc2 (maybe everyone in NetCAT can > >>> check > >>>>> whether all their issues can still be reproduced in NetCAT and then > >>> add a > >>>>> 'NetCAT 10' label so we can collect then all), which ones need to be > >>>>> prioritized, etc. > >>>>> > >>>>> Gj > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jiří Kovalský < > >> [email protected] > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Why do we need such filter? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Jirka > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dne 2.11.2018 v 04:20 Leo Donahue napsal(a): > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Good question, I was wondering if we should have been using > >> JIRA > >>>>> labels > >>>>>>> for NetCAT 9 and 10 issues. That would allow you to filter. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the > >>>>> NetCAT > >>>>>>>> program? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Gj > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> here are my thoughts. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 1. Tickets in strange state > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay > >>> attention > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are > >>> gone. > >>>>> With > >>>>>>>>>> the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address > >> each > >>>>>>>>>> issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev > >>>> team > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> you. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people > >> who > >>>> have > >>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, > >>>> HTML, > >>>>>>>> C/C++). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own > >>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding how open source software development works. > >>> Good > >>>>> news > >>>>>>>>>> is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying > >> to > >>>>>>>>>> reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and > >>> setting > >>>>>> their > >>>>>>>>>> status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do > >> that? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated > >>> to > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> process) that we should focus on testing only. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no > >>>>>> dedicated > >>>>>>>>> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for > >>>>> developing > >>>>>>>>> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't > >>>> raise > >>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, > >> the > >>>>>>>> landscape > >>>>>>>>> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> 2. Tribe leaders are useless > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset > >>> for > >>>>>>>>>> NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their > >>>> tribe > >>>>>>>>>> members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing > >>> the > >>>>>> work > >>>>>>>>>> load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding > >> about > >>>>>>>>>> incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious > >>>> ones > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>> the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If > >>> these > >>>>> do > >>>>>>>>>> not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program > >>>> coordinators > >>>>>>>>>> which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT > >> participants > >>>> with > >>>>>>>>>> impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are > >>>> still > >>>>>>>>> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time > >>> that > >>>>>> much. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports > >>>> summarizing > >>>>>>>>> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew > >> where > >>>> it > >>>>>> was > >>>>>>>>> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that > >>> NetCAT > >>>>> was > >>>>>>>>> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for > >>>> themselves > >>>>>> how > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, > >>> suits > >>>>> me > >>>>>>>>> better :) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Michal > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > >> [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, > >> visit: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=bav55yn4OB_qRWlPyg-3eJxbD1-VSSiM3rlfkRSmb04&s=F_nGJasZFETJzbaEQ5jlaHNRp9JVwzJm8vodU36w0M4&e= > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>>>> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=OLXzSoP2kiRq-Dn69obkWr5NkRkOZUDIx6QFHxbtaWE&s=2tZUbz7_GDIGgaH0xgUYF19uodGj5PSUotAd-WpNpDc&e= > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
