Along the same lines, yes, first question, "What do you think about netbeans java editing features"... no idea as I do not use it for java.
пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 10:45, Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net>: > But the Survey is only multiple choice, I can remember a Survey back in > the days of NetBeans 7 and I think 8 too, where we have some textfields > where users can add most their most wanted Features and at the end of the > Survey, after collecting the data, there was a overview of that. > > I did the Survey but did I miss such fields or Questions? > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > > > Von: Geertjan Wielenga > Gesendet: Freitag, 2. November 2018 13:39 > An: netcat > Betreff: Re: Some of my thought regarding NetCAT 10 > > Makes perfect sense, use the survey to indicate which issues you're most > concerned about. > > Gj > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:53 PM Jiří Kovalský <jiri.koval...@oracle.com> > wrote: > > > I would suggest to identify then with BLOCKER severity. > > > > -Jirka > > > > Dne 2.11.2018 v 12:46 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a): > > > Sure, fair enough, the problem though is how to identify them in the > > issue > > > tracker. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:33 PM Sasha Alexander Romanenko < > > tmt...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> That defeats purpose of issue tracker. This information needs to be > > readily > > >> available on report or query, not dispersed emails. > > >> > > >> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г., 7:30 Geertjan Wielenga > > >> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid: > > >> > > >>> Maybe one way to approach this would be to ask everyone in NetCAT to > > >> list 3 > > >>> of the issues they filed that they'd prioritize for fixing over all > > >> others, > > >>> regardless of whether they're blockers, i.e., simply 'my world would > > be a > > >>> good deal better if the following 3 were to be fixed', just add them > > as a > > >>> response in this thread. > > >>> > > >>> Gj > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:28 PM Alexander Romanenko < > > >>> a...@alex-tech-adventures.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> I was setting "affected version" to 10 for my issues - it looked > like > > >>> that > > >>>> was the label for this iteration of testing, so could maybe search > by > > >>> that > > >>>> too. > > >>>> > > >>>> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:18, Geertjan Wielenga > > >>>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid>: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Well, I'd like to see all the issues that have been filed during > the > > >>>> NetCAT > > >>>>> program. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'd also somehow like to see which ones really need to be fixed, > > >> which > > >>>> ones > > >>>>> can no longer be reproduced in 10-vc2 (maybe everyone in NetCAT can > > >>> check > > >>>>> whether all their issues can still be reproduced in NetCAT and then > > >>> add a > > >>>>> 'NetCAT 10' label so we can collect then all), which ones need to > be > > >>>>> prioritized, etc. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Gj > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jiří Kovalský < > > >> jiri.koval...@oracle.com > > >>>> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Why do we need such filter? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -Jirka > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dne 2.11.2018 v 04:20 Leo Donahue napsal(a): > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Good question, I was wondering if we should have been using > > >> JIRA > > >>>>> labels > > >>>>>>> for NetCAT 9 and 10 issues. That would allow you to filter. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > >>>>>>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the > > >>>>> NetCAT > > >>>>>>>> program? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Gj > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <mic...@owsiak.org> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander, > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> here are my thoughts. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> 1. Tickets in strange state > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay > > >>> attention > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>> bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are > > >>> gone. > > >>>>> With > > >>>>>>>>>> the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address > > >> each > > >>>>>>>>>> issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev > > >>>> team > > >>>>> is > > >>>>>>>>>> you. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people > > >> who > > >>>> have > > >>>>>> no > > >>>>>>>>> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, > > >>>> HTML, > > >>>>>>>> C/C++). > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own > > >>>>>>>>>> misunderstanding how open source software development works. > > >>> Good > > >>>>> news > > >>>>>>>>>> is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying > > >> to > > >>>>>>>>>> reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and > > >>> setting > > >>>>>> their > > >>>>>>>>>> status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do > > >> that? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated > > >>> to > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> process) that we should focus on testing only. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no > > >>>>>> dedicated > > >>>>>>>>> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for > > >>>>> developing > > >>>>>>>>> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't > > >>>> raise > > >>>>>> this > > >>>>>>>>> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, > > >> the > > >>>>>>>> landscape > > >>>>>>>>> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> 2. Tribe leaders are useless > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset > > >>> for > > >>>>>>>>>> NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their > > >>>> tribe > > >>>>>>>>>> members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing > > >>> the > > >>>>>> work > > >>>>>>>>>> load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding > > >> about > > >>>>>>>>>> incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious > > >>>> ones > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>> the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If > > >>> these > > >>>>> do > > >>>>>>>>>> not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program > > >>>> coordinators > > >>>>>>>>>> which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT > > >> participants > > >>>> with > > >>>>>>>>>> impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are > > >>>> still > > >>>>>>>>> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time > > >>> that > > >>>>>> much. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports > > >>>> summarizing > > >>>>>>>>> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew > > >> where > > >>>> it > > >>>>>> was > > >>>>>>>>> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that > > >>> NetCAT > > >>>>> was > > >>>>>>>>> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for > > >>>> themselves > > >>>>>> how > > >>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, > > >>> suits > > >>>>> me > > >>>>>>>>> better :) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Michal > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: > > >> netcat-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, > > >> visit: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=bav55yn4OB_qRWlPyg-3eJxbD1-VSSiM3rlfkRSmb04&s=F_nGJasZFETJzbaEQ5jlaHNRp9JVwzJm8vodU36w0M4&e= > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > >>>>>> > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=OLXzSoP2kiRq-Dn69obkWr5NkRkOZUDIx6QFHxbtaWE&s=2tZUbz7_GDIGgaH0xgUYF19uodGj5PSUotAd-WpNpDc&e= > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > >
