Sure, fair enough, the problem though is how to identify them in the issue
tracker.

Gj

On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:33 PM Sasha Alexander Romanenko <tmt...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> That defeats purpose of issue tracker. This information needs to be readily
> available on report or query, not dispersed emails.
>
> пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г., 7:30 Geertjan Wielenga
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid:
>
> > Maybe one way to approach this would be to ask everyone in NetCAT to
> list 3
> > of the issues they filed that they'd prioritize for fixing over all
> others,
> > regardless of whether they're blockers, i.e., simply 'my world would be a
> > good deal better if the following 3 were to be fixed', just add them as a
> > response in this thread.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 12:28 PM Alexander Romanenko <
> > a...@alex-tech-adventures.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I was setting "affected version" to 10 for my issues - it looked like
> > that
> > > was the label for this iteration of testing, so could maybe search by
> > that
> > > too.
> > >
> > > пт, 2 нояб. 2018 г. в 7:18, Geertjan Wielenga
> > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid>:
> > >
> > > > Well, I'd like to see all the issues that have been filed during the
> > > NetCAT
> > > > program.
> > > >
> > > > I'd also somehow like to see which ones really need to be fixed,
> which
> > > ones
> > > > can no longer be reproduced in 10-vc2 (maybe everyone in NetCAT can
> > check
> > > > whether all their issues can still be reproduced in NetCAT and then
> > add a
> > > > 'NetCAT 10' label so we can collect then all), which ones need to be
> > > > prioritized, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jiří Kovalský <
> jiri.koval...@oracle.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Why do we need such filter?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Jirka
> > > > >
> > > > > Dne 2.11.2018 v 04:20 Leo Donahue napsal(a):
> > > > >
> > > > > >   Good question, I was wondering if we should have been using
> JIRA
> > > > labels
> > > > > > for NetCAT 9 and 10 issues.  That would allow you to filter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 5:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the
> > > > NetCAT
> > > > > >> program?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Gj
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM <mic...@owsiak.org> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hello Jiri, hello Alexander,
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> here are my thoughts.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> 1. Tickets in strange state
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay
> > attention
> > > > to
> > > > > >>>> bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are
> > gone.
> > > > With
> > > > > >>>> the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address
> each
> > > > > >>>> issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev
> > > team
> > > > is
> > > > > >>>> you.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people
> who
> > > have
> > > > > no
> > > > > >>> idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP,
> > > HTML,
> > > > > >> C/C++).
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own
> > > > > >>>> misunderstanding how open source software development works.
> > Good
> > > > news
> > > > > >>>> is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying
> to
> > > > > >>>> reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and
> > setting
> > > > > their
> > > > > >>>> status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do
> that?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > >>> process) that we should focus on testing only.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no
> > > > > dedicated
> > > > > >>> developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for
> > > > developing
> > > > > >>> NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't
> > > raise
> > > > > this
> > > > > >>> kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply,
> the
> > > > > >> landscape
> > > > > >>> of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> 2. Tribe leaders are useless
> > > > > >>>>
> > > > > >>>> I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset
> > for
> > > > > >>>> NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their
> > > tribe
> > > > > >>>> members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing
> > the
> > > > > work
> > > > > >>>> load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding
> about
> > > > > >>>> incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious
> > > ones
> > > > to
> > > > > >>>> the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If
> > these
> > > > do
> > > > > >>>> not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program
> > > coordinators
> > > > > >>>> which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT
> participants
> > > with
> > > > > >>>> impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are
> > > still
> > > > > >>> taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time
> > that
> > > > > much.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports
> > > summarizing
> > > > > >>> activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew
> where
> > > it
> > > > > was
> > > > > >>> standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that
> > NetCAT
> > > > was
> > > > > >>> targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for
> > > themselves
> > > > > how
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >>> update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact,
> > suits
> > > > me
> > > > > >>> better :)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Michal
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
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