Hi,
>
> Hi Jon,
>
> Jon Wareham wrote the following about [netconnect] Re: NC3/Genesis piracy:
>
> > First sorry that something like this has happend to you, but bringing
> > this out in the open gives the people in this list and idea what Mr.
> > Wiles is really like. Like you, but not to the same extent, I have
> > money owed to me by Mr Wiles. The sad thing is too many people
> > here do not care and will always think of Mr. Wiles as some kind of
> > saviour that can do no wrong.
>
> I don't think that anyone has said that. The relationship between a
> distributer and his suppliers can be a difficult one, and I recently
> was involved in resolving some difficulties between two moderately
> sized (say �250,000 sized) companies, who fell out over a liquidation
> "detail"
I wasn't a supplier, I was/am a customer. The original posting drew
many parallels to the treatment I have had. From your experience you
would be the ideal candidate to act as a buffer between Mr. Wiles and
his suppliers/customers, maybe you can sort all these problems out.
> Chris has worked very hard to keep some products available for a very
> small market, and he has done a lot to support those products beyond
> the call of duty. In actual fact, it is not my/our concern if
> anyone's toes got trod on (outwith the NC3 users) in the making and
> release of NC3. I don't go a pick holes in Yamaha's import
> restrictions every time I drive my bike, and I don't worry about which
> woodcrafter didn't get paid when I play my spruce-topped classical
> guitar.
No but you would be a little bit miffed if you paid for your Yamaha
and it turned out to be a duff or if you paid for you guitar and 2 1/2
year later still waiting for it to arrive.
But in reality I hope you would be just a little bit interested in the
origins of the products you use!!
I am still a NC2 user, there was no way I was going to throw more
money in to Active's pockets while still waiting for settlement.
> So, on you go. Let's see what difference you can make by saying
> "Ooooh, Mr Wiles is a bad man". Fuck all. None. He's supporting us,
> or not supporting us, for nothing and he's probably selling on
> NC/Genesis for someone else to maintain/bin once he gets out of Uni
> to concentrate on whatever new direction his studies take him in. If
> he continues to support the Amiga market, that would be all well and
> good, but to be honest the number of cash-wielding users is small, and
> sadly the number of pirates is still proportionally high. The PC
> market has more pirates (oh yes!), but a user-base the size of planet
> Earth.
No, I don't really expect to make any difference now, As the original
poster said, it will be too costly to take any legal action. Would
you be happy that everybody stayed quiet when such a problem occured
with any company or product. If that is the case I would love to
take your money in exchange for, well in exchange for nothing, You
just sit there quietly, don't tell your neighbour, he is next.
I would have quite probably bought NC3, helped supported the market ,
keep the amiga alive, etc etc. But Mr Wiles debt and lack of
communications made that a no no. I will even have second thoughts
about paying for any another Amiga software. So the market dies even
more.
> Really. What difference does it make? You're trying to use this list
> as a "Look at this evil guy. Meet up at his castle, and bring a
> pitchfork" way of solving a non-existant problem.
It is very existant to me, I did not imagine paying out money, hell I
even bought Stfax with which I have absolutley no use for. But thanks
for the idea of the pitchfork . ;)
> Totty <8^)
>
Jon
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