> On Dec 22, 2015:6:38 AM, at 6:38 AM, Benoit Claise <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jürgen,
>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 06:47:49PM +0100, Benoit Claise wrote:
>> 
>>> I hope that nobody disagrees that the operational state design and how
>>> to structure the models are the two blocking factors to publish YANG
>>> models. If you disagree or don't see this, let me know, I should
>>> communicate better.
>> Even if it may spoil your day, I disagree that there is a blocking
>> factor that should stop us from publishing models.
> Interestingly, I received that feedback again recently, this time from the 
> OSPF and ISIS YANG model authors.

        This is a blocking factor that people are not considering: The RFC 
process the 
IETF has in place is not suitable for rapid/modern/canonical model development. 
 It will 
be difficult for the IESG review process to scale to even a couple models 
during any given 
telechat period given the state of the document review/approval process. How do 
we 
envision the IESG reviewing 250+ models (and growing)?  Besides the initial RFC 
version, 
rapid refresh/update of models has the same issues. 

        —Tom

>> There seem to be
>> ways to address the requirements without having to block all work or
>> to redo what that we have published.
> That's my hope too.
>> But sure, if you make it a
>> blocking factor, it will be one.
> I'll chose to ignore this last sentence.
> 
> Regards, Benoit
>> 
>>> I hope that nobody really believes that because some people in IETF (or
>>> in any other SDOs) thinks that what those operators want is a bad idea,
>>> those operators will not get what they request/pay for from their suppliers.
>> To be fair, those operators also tell us that they use protocols that
>> are not IETF protocols and it remains somewhat unclear what those
>> protocols are we are expected to optimize data model solutions for.
>> 
>> /js
>> 
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