I've done similar tests and received same results. I don't think Zeus is
bad, but why pay for something it it's as kick ass as Apache is.

-- 
Austin Gonyou
Systems Architect, CCNA
Coremetrics, Inc.
Phone: 512-796-9023
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey A. Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Apache 2.0 final ?
> 
> 
> Ok, I've emailed this a couple of times and I'm gonna say it 
> once again. :)
> We NEED Apache 2.0 out ASAP.  We needed Apache 2.0 out in 
> January.  We needed
> a beta back last year at the end of September or October 
> whenever the UK
> ApacheCon was.  I can't stress this enough.  Apache is 
> starting to fall behind
> technologically.  I have a friend of mine who had to switch 
> from Apache to
> Zeus cause Apache couldn't handle the load.  He was only able 
> to get a max
> throughput of 12 Mb/s out of Apache and he PERSONALLY was 
> able to get 40 Mb/s
> out of Zeus.  AND he told me that he's heard of people doing 
> 80 Mb/s through
> Zeus.
> 
> We NEED Apache 2.0. :)  I think the multi proc/multi threaded 
> model will
> really give some oomph to the server.  Combine that soon with 
> mod_perl 2.0 and
> some other technologies out there and we can compete with 
> Zeus and some of the
> other web servers in high load applications.
> 
> --
> Jeff Stuart
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Stoddard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 12:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; William A. Rowe, Jr.
> Subject: Re: Apache 2.0 final ?
> 
> 
> > From: "Brian Behlendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 10:01 PM
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> > > > Trick question, let me explain...
> > >
> > > I think people like him are asking: when is the fiddling 
> done, and people
> > > have a program they can start to incorporate into their 
> operating system
> > > releases, deploy for production customers, etc?  While 
> we're still working
> > > on low-level issues like pools/sms in APR and fixing 
> other big performance
> > > issues, we're not there yet.
> >
> > Agreed, but let's not be too obsessed about performance vs. 
> architecture.
> > If the architecture is right, optimization becomes trivial 
> in 2.0.21, .22,
> etc,
> > so sms-enhanced pools are a precursor to a release.  Full 
> implementation of
> > twelve alternate memory allocation structures is not...
> 
> a precursor to a release? Or not trivial? I hope it is not 
> necessary to fully
> implement
> twelve alternate memory blah blah before a release :-)
> 
> >
> > I see very few showstoppers remaining to a general 'find 
> the bugs' beta
> release
> > in the course of the next two weeks.  Resolving the 
> query-scoreboard and
> getting
> > the lifetimes straightened out first is key (and sms helps 
> with alternate
> > lifetimes.)  But I don't see any more "Big Things" to hold 
> up 2.0.  We are
> close
> > enough to taste it.
> 
> Yep.
> 
> >
> > To have mod_ssl/tls all wrapped up for the general release would be
> fantastic,
> > of course, but it would be nice to know Apache 2.0 sans ssl 
> is as solid and
> > far superior to Apache 1.3 even before that's introduced.
> 
> We definitely should not wait for SSL.
> 
> >
> > If it means that we end up with a stable release in July, 
> without the
> mod_ssl,
> > that's fine by me.
> 
> Roger that.
> 
> > If the next stable 2.0 incarnation rolls in mod_ssl, I think
> > everyone could live with that.  If proxy reaches stability 
> when Apache does,
> then
> > great, call them both stable.  Otherwise, we have Apache 2.0 stable,
> including
> > proxy beta candidate.  The parts ought to grow and 
> stabilize on their own.
> >
> > The async and layered I/O ideas are great, and both would 
> take some time (6
> mos?)
> > to evolve.  But somewhere along the line we have to decide 
> 'that's 2.1.'
> 
> Sounds good to me. I agree that this should not hold up 2.0 
> (though I am a fan
> of
> eventually getting both into the 2.* line).
> 
> >
> > > I think it's enough to state "as soon as the showstoppers 
> are out of
> > > the httpd-2.0/STATUS file" as a qualifier for that.  
> Hopefully it means
> > > folks are focusing on those issues.
> >
> > One hopes :-)  Can't forget though that it's one's own 
> itches.  Apache tries
> to prove
> > that many coders, pulling the oars to their own sense of 
> rhythm, create
> something
> > worthwhile.  Some days the oars get tangled, but I think we succeed
> neverless.
> 
> Heh... I recall telling Ryan on this list, around 8 months ago that
> introducing filters
> into Apache 2.0 would delay us 6 months. And Ryan said no way 
> would filters
> delay us 6
> months, it would only be on the order of weeks.  Heh, heh... Still
> counting...Filters are
> way cool and scratch a big itch but there is a lesson here. 
> :-/  If you want
> to see Bill
> go completely ape-shit, just propose that another big 
> chunk-o-code like
> filters go into
> Apache 2.0 before it is released :-)
> 
> Bill
> 
> 

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