On March 20, 2006 16:16, Robin Turner wrote:
> On 17/03/06, Robin Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> > Just downloaded Kubuntu, but that was merely a fortuitous coincidence:
> > I wanted to see what a Debian-style distro was like. (K)ubuntu
> > certainly looks like it has a strong community and clear moral
> > principles, though.
>
> Update - it installed easily, though without the graphic pizzaz we're
> used to these days (it reminded me of the good old days of RedHat
> 5.*). I still can't get the hang of this weird attitude to root,
> though. Unless I dozed off, there was no way to set a root password
> during install, but if you try to do something requiring root
> permissions (which is most of what you'll be doing immediately after
> install) it asks for a password. I'll give it some more time, but my
> first impression is that this is one kooky distro.
>
> BTW, you can keep your old /home partition intact when you install,
> but then it won't recognise it, and woe betide you if your trying to
> log on with your old user name!
>
> Sir Robin
Yeah, the root password is some fixed default ("root"?). Highly recommended
that your first action after login is to become root and give it a real
password.
And the problem with home directories is that users are numbered starting from
1000, instead of 500 as in Mandriva. So you have to chown all the files. If,
say, your userid is "robin", do this (as root of course):
chown -R robin.robin /home/robin
And of course you'll want to (re)move your ~/.kde directory. Just to be safe,
I did the following:
cd
mkdir old
mv .??* old
This gets rid of all dot files and directories, and starts clean (the ".??*"
pattern forces the file names to be at least 3 characters long; otherwise,
it'll try to move your "." (current) and ".." (parent) directories, which
depending on permissions may actually work, and is certainly not what you
want!).
One more difference I noticed: on Mandriva, when I just do "su", I get my root
path ("/sbin", "/usr/sbin" included); I rarely if ever have to "su -". But on
Kubuntu, "su" leaves the entire user environment the same, and just changes
the effective userid, so "su -" is almost always required to do what you want
to do (like being able to run /sbin programs without using fully qualified
paths). I think the Kubuntu behaviour is actually closer to the "standard"
behaviour, but it takes some getting used to.
--
Ron (ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net)
Opinions expressed here are all mine
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