inline shortened.

Am new on this list so some short words on me. I'm a systems developer that
have become interested in NHibernate over the past 2 years or so. Have used
it in a small desktop application, and currently working on incorporating it
into a web application my company is building. My views then are from a
library-user POW.


2009/3/14 Ayende Rahien <[email protected]>

> inline
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sidar Ok <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Inline
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> inline
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sidar Ok <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>


>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, I don't think the abstraction is not required, first it will
>>>> make it possible to swap between loggers and log4net is not mandatory any
>>>> more,
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the point? I don't see any pain involve with this for our users.
>>>
>>
>> There are a lot of people using log4net just because NH (I am one of them)
>>
>>
>
> Again, what is the pain? Having an additional library?
>

The user then has to configure several logging libraries. It might also be
problematic to have the whole application log to the same log file if
multiple logging frameworks might stomp each other.



>
>>> I am sorry, but I am afraid that I don't see this providing any value for
>>> us.
>>>
>>
>> I respect your opinion, but if seeing no value doesn't mean objection I am
>> up for providing a patch for this.
>>
>
> Let me rephrase that, then.
> I see a very big change proposed, one that would be a breaking change, for
> something that doesn't really cause user any pain.
> In addition to that, I am not seeing any ROI of this change. That is my
> problem.
>
> Breaking changes should be avoided in general, and I don't really see a
> justification for doing something like this.
>


Could the "log4net-logprovider" be maintained within NHibernate core and
used automatically by default if the user does not specify a different
provider? Then current and future user's will get todays behaviour without
any additional work.


-- 
Oskar Berggren

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