I got the line of "being born there as the only reason they could stand it" one 
day riding the MTA up the 405 and reading some alternate newspaper with a 
column by some guy imitating the talk of the then popular social phenomena 
"Valley Girls". The girls were having a conversation about ppl who lived in 
other places and they came to the conclusion that the only way they could do it 
was to be born there.  This hit me as the absolute truth and I never forgot it.


--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced Southerner
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 8:13 AM
> I'm glad I don't know any better ;) I have noticed
> that bread lasts longer
> up here before it turns green. I've also noticed how
> raw my throat feels
> with each painful breath of dry air up here.
> 
> -Kyle
> 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Mark Hasslinger
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> >
> > I lived in Huston for one year back in 1980. Aside
> from the oppressive
> > humidity, well not aside but along with the oppressive
> humidity is the foul
> > mildew that is pervasive, covering everything outdoors
> and indoors if you
> > don't constantly clean and run an air-conditioner.
>  the outdoors is
> > permanently mildewed except for a few weeks in winter
> when it dries up a
> > bit. the only way a person could live there on a
> permanent basis is to be
> > born there.  Just like living in the frozen tundra you
> only last if you were
> > born there and don't know any better.
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Dennis Hammerl
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced
> Southerner
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 11:06 PM
> > > Talk about air you can feel? The first time I
> went to FL,
> > > after riding in an air conditioned train for
> almost 24
> > > hours, we got off in West Palm Beach... I almost
> died. How
> > > can anybody breath here? It was about 96. That
> was back in
> > > '62. The coldest it's been here lately
> was -2. with
> > > a chill factor of -9. Isn't it wonderful how
> man can
> > > adapt to almost anything. One of the reasons I
> gave up on
> > > riding in extreme cold was the "ice
> cream"
> > > headaches. Still have my snow suit for riding but
> only wear
> > > it to blow snow. I did make a mistake once that I
> still pay
> > > for every winter. I went sledding in a local park
> without
> > > gloves.. frostbite of the thumbs. Dumb, very
> dumb. It's
> > > been quite warm here past three days (upper
> 50's) and
> > > the bikes are out in force. Cabin fever has set
> in.
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Kyle Munz
> <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced
> Southerner
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 7:09 AM
> > >
> > > I know not everyone enjoy's Houston's
> weather, but
> > > I'm finding the only time I can breathe up
> here is in
> > > the shower. I guess I'm just used to
> breathing air you
> > > can "feel". 28F is really about the
> lowest
> > > I've ever seen it in Houston, and we get
> those days very
> > > very rarely. Back home I'm seen as somewhat
> extreme for
> > > riding in temps as low as mid 30s. I'm
> thinking I would
> > > rather be up here in August.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Kyle
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Dennis Hammerl
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > My sympathy Kyle. The years I lived in FL, I
> couldn't
> > > adjust to the heat in summer (102 day, 85 night
> in Orlando)
> > > and was never so cold as I was one morning at 28
> in
> > > February. By afternoon it was 74. I was born up
> here and am
> > > no fan of the cold. In my younger days, I rode
> straight
> > > through two years. Rode to work everyday unless
> it was
> > > snowing. Then I discovered cars... WOW ! You
> don't have
> > > to endure a runny nose all the time. You can be
> warm. Now at
> > > my advanced age, I treasure the simple pleasure
> of not
> > > freezing.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Kyle Munz
> <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hello from a new
> member,
> > > 1986 650SC owner.  Throttle cable routing.
> > > To:
> > >  [email protected]
> > > Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:55 AM
> > >
> > > No, unfortunately I'm up here in Cleveland,
> or rather
> > > Mentor, until spring. I get to go home this
> weekend though,
> > > just enough time to spend Valentine's day
> with the
> > > missus, then right back up here to the
> frozen-white-north.
> > > Today isn't so bad, I can deal with 40F or
> 50F, we get
> > > those temps in Houston. However things were quite
> foreign
> > > for me a few weeks ago when it was -11F outside
> and I was
> > > trying to knock 10 inches of some weird white
> stuff off of
> > > the rental car while my insides were freezing
> solid.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Kyle
> > > -misplaced southerner
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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