I have lived in Florida and Indiana. I have ridden in both warm and cold temps. 
The extreme cold, in my opinion is worse to me. The coldest I have ever ridden 
in was about 29 degrees. This was in Florida in the mid 80's. The coldest in 
Indiana was 43 degrees. It takes the body so much more time to warm up after 
being cold then to cool off from being hot. I have also ridden in 100+ degrees, 
That is also no fun. The only advantage that I can speak of when riding in the 
cold is that "after your body is numb you aren't cold anymore". Now that I am 
back in Florida, I can ride almost all year round without the problems of cold 
weather. I am glad to have another vehicle (with air and heat) to fall back on 
though.


Jeff Rumer
(Magilla)
 

--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced Southerner
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 3:32 PM






You're right about the advancements in garb for the cold. The problem I have is 
finding out how poor the traction is on a very cold day. Sticky tires loose a 
lot below 40. Greatly reduced lean angle becomes the rule of the day. The bikes 
from the early 80's ran so poorly in the cold, it took forever for them to 
respond right. They were bad on a warm day. Whatever pursuit gave us 
Thinsulate, I'm indebted too. 

--- On Sat, 2/14/09, Mark Hasslinger <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Mark Hasslinger <[email protected]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced Southerner
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, February 14, 2009, 7:51 AM

the really best refreshing ride is at below zero F. 
 You ain't lived till
you do it. I've only been to -4*F, but will try to better my personal best!

riding in cold weather shouldn't be all that surprising now that
snowmobiles have been around for more than a half century and now with the
peripheral industry of the gear that goes along with it. As one cold weather
daily rider tell it, "when he goes out in the morning he is dressed in his
warm toasty clothes and stays that way till he gets into his office and takes
off his gear, while his cager bound workmates scurry into their fridge cars,
shivering the first seven miles till the thing warms up and then park in a cold
parking lot to scurry to the warmth of the inside, only to repeat this tourure
once again before getting back home". 

Herbert Kriegle of;

http://thetimelessride.com/English/HTML%20files/Home%20htm/home.htm

is now on his way to a town in Norway, 400 miles north of the Artic Circle.
 Go
there and be refreshed!!!

--- On Fri, 2/13/09, wakeboard TX <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: wakeboard TX <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced Southerner
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 9:00 PM
> In my opinion the 28 degree Winter morning ride (commute) is
> worse than the 98 degree, humid, afternoon Summer ride.
> But, then again, I was born here. 
> Dale in Houston
>  
> > Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:19:02 -0800> From:
> [email protected]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re:
> displaced Southerner> To:
> [email protected]> > > I got the
> line of "being born there as the only reason they could
> stand it" one day riding the MTA up the 405 and reading
> some alternate newspaper with a column by some guy
 imitating
> the talk of the then popular social phenomena "Valley
> Girls". The girls were having a conversation about ppl
> who lived in other places and they came to the conclusion
> that the only way they could do it was to be born there.
> This hit me as the absolute truth and I never forgot it.>
> > > --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Kyle Munz
> <[email protected]> wrote:> > > From: Kyle
> Munz <[email protected]>> > Subject: [Nighthawk
> Lovers] Re: displaced Southerner> > To:
> [email protected]> > Date: Friday,
> February 13, 2009, 8:13 AM> > I'm glad I don't
> know any better ;) I have noticed> > that bread lasts
> longer> > up here before it turns green. I've also
> noticed how> > raw my throat feels> > with each
> painful breath of dry air up here.> > >
 >
> -Kyle> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at
> 7:12 AM, Mark Hasslinger> >
> <[email protected]>wrote:> > > >
> >> > > I lived in Huston for one year back in
> 1980. Aside> > from the oppressive> > >
> humidity, well not aside but along with the oppressive>
> > humidity is the foul> > > mildew that is
> pervasive, covering everything outdoors> > and indoors
> if you> > > don't constantly clean and run an
> air-conditioner.> > the outdoors is> > >
> permanently mildewed except for a few weeks in winter>
> > when it dries up a> > > bit. the only way a
> person could live there on a> > permanent basis is to
> be> > > born there. Just like living in the frozen
> tundra you> > only last if you were> > >
 born
> there and don't know any better.> > >> >
> >> > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Dennis Hammerl>
> > <[email protected]> wrote:> > >>
> > > > From: Dennis Hammerl
> <[email protected]>> > > > Subject:
> [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced> > Southerner>
> > > > To: [email protected]>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 11:06
> PM> > > > Talk about air you can feel? The first
> time I> > went to FL,> > > > after riding
> in an air conditioned train for> > almost 24> >
> > > hours, we got off in West Palm Beach... I
> almost> > died. How> > > > can anybody
> breath here? It was about 96. That> > was back in>
> > > > '62. The coldest it's been here
>
 lately> > was -2. with> > > > a chill
> factor of -9. Isn't it wonderful how> > man
> can> > > > adapt to almost anything. One of the
> reasons I> > gave up on> > > > riding in
> extreme cold was the "ice> > cream"> >
> > > headaches. Still have my snow suit for riding
> but> > only wear> > > > it to blow snow. I
> did make a mistake once that I> > still pay> >
> > > for every winter. I went sledding in a local
> park> > without> > > > gloves.. frostbite
> of the thumbs. Dumb, very> > dumb. It's> >
> > > been quite warm here past three days (upper>
> > 50's) and> > > > the bikes are out in
> force. Cabin fever has set> > in.> > >
> >> > > > --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Kyle Munz>
>
 > <[email protected]>> > > > wrote:>
> > > > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>>
> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: displaced>
> > Southerner> > > > To:
> [email protected]> > > > Date:
> Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 7:09 AM> > > >>
> > > > I know not everyone enjoy's
> Houston's> > weather, but> > > >
> I'm finding the only time I can breathe up> > here
> is in> > > > the shower. I guess I'm just
> used to> > breathing air you> > > > can
> "feel". 28F is really about the> >
> lowest> > > > I've ever seen it in Houston,
> and we get> > those days very> > > > very
> rarely. Back home I'm seen as somewhat> > extreme
> for> > > > riding
 in temps as low as mid 30s.
> I'm> > thinking I would> > > > rather
> be up here in August.> > > >> > >
> >> > > > -Kyle> > > >> >
> > >> > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:17
> AM, Dennis Hammerl> > > >
> <[email protected]> wrote:> > > >>
> > > >> > > > My sympathy Kyle. The
> years I lived in FL, I> > couldn't> > >
> > adjust to the heat in summer (102 day, 85 night>
> > in Orlando)> > > > and was never so cold as
> I was one morning at 28> > in> > > >
> February. By afternoon it was 74. I was born up> >
> here and am> > > > no fan of the cold. In my
> younger days, I rode> > straight> > > >
> through two years. Rode to work everyday
 unless> > it
> was> > > > snowing. Then I discovered cars...
> WOW ! You> > don't have> > > > to
> endure a runny nose all the time. You can be> > warm.
> Now at> > > > my advanced age, I treasure the
> simple pleasure> > of not> > > >
> freezing.> > > >> > > >> >
> > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Kyle Munz> >
> <[email protected]>> > > > wrote:> >
> > >> > > > From: Kyle Munz
> <[email protected]>> > > > Subject:
> [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Hello from a new> > member,>
> > > > 1986 650SC owner. Throttle cable routing.>
> > > > To:> > > >
> [email protected]> > > > Date:
> Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:55 AM> > >
 >>
> > > > No, unfortunately I'm up here in
> Cleveland,> > or rather> > > > Mentor,
> until spring. I get to go home this> > weekend
> though,> > > > just enough time to spend
> Valentine's day> > with the> > > >
> missus, then right back up here to the> >
> frozen-white-north.> > > > Today isn't so
> bad, I can deal with 40F or> > 50F, we get> >
> > > those temps in Houston. However things were
> quite> > foreign> > > > for me a few weeks
> ago when it was -11F outside> > and I was> >
> > > trying to knock 10 inches of some weird white>
> > stuff off of> > > > the rental car while my
> insides were freezing> > solid.> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> > > >
>
 -Kyle> > > > -misplaced southerner> > >
> >> > > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > >> > >
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> >> > > >> > > >> > >
> >> > > >> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> > > > > >
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