We wore zorries for 20 years living in the Mariana Islands, still  
never saw a hairy shifter.

On Jan 2, 2010, at 10:56 AM, stanley/ Randolph wrote:

> No, silly, the hair is on my toe.  Kinda pulls off, because of the  
> rubber on the shifter, when I rode in zorries.
>
> Stanley
>
>
> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Fri, January 1, 2010 11:58:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!
>
> who on earth has a shifter covered in hair?
>
> On Jan 1, 2010, at 12:18 PM, stanley/ Randolph wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of that line in one of the Lethal Weapon series.  Mel  
>> asks the Chinese dude what's for lunch flied lice:  the old man  
>> says its fried rice, you plick...
>> Arigatou - the Japanese pronounce it with a "D," not an  'R. "   
>> That makes it, addigato.  Same for zorries.  As a kid, I always  
>> just knew it was spelled zodies, because, after all, that's how  
>> it's pronounced?
>> In case you don't know, it's the Japanese footwear that Americans  
>> call flip-flops...
>> I always rode my bike with them and I even rode my motorcycles  
>> with them, and also my car.  Got stopped by a cop one time in  
>> Seattle who told me I had to have shoes on to drive my car.  He  
>> finally, hesitantly, let me go after throughly explaining to him  
>> that I had worn these things all my life since I lived in Japan,  
>> back in '56.
>> Upshifting is a little hard on the big toe, though, especially if  
>> it has a lot of hair?
>> Stanley
>>
>>
>> From: oldschoolgwin <[email protected]>
>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 8:59:52 PM
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!
>>
>> Yea - i had a dynamics proffessor that would say before every exam
>> with warm wishes "rotsa ruck everyone".  Though i can barely say
>> "arigatou"!
>>
>> On Dec 31, 6:21 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > And the spanish get their Y's and J's backwards. i don't know  
>> why they can't
>> > just pretend it's the other way around.
>> >
>> > -Kyle
>> > -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Graham Rogers  
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > We spent 20 something years in Asia - try making sense of this  
>> - say the
>> > > word London ('runden' and Rome 'lome'
>> >
>> > > On Dec 31, 2009, at 7:38 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote:
>> >
>> > > Why would the Japanese ever name a car Corolla ?
>> > > Think about that awhile.
>> > > --- On *Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote:
>> >
>> > > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
>> > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el stucko!
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:35 PM
>> >
>> > > Well I'll stick with the Honda manuals with their mixed up L's  
>> and R's
>> > > rather than Clymer with dead wrong wiring diagrams.
>> >
>> > > -Kyle
>> > > -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>> >
>> > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Dennis Hammerl  
>> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>
>> > > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >>  My understanding is Clymer manuals will no longer be  
>> published. They all
>> > >> got jobs with the administration.
>> >
>> > >> --- On *Thu, 12/31/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/ 
>> [email protected]>
>> > >> >* wrote:
>> >
>> > >> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]<http://mc/compose? 
>> [email protected]>
>> >
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el  
>> stucko!
>> > >> To: [email protected]<http://mc/compose? 
>> [email protected]>
>> > >> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 7:01 PM
>> >
>> > >> Mr Clymer will lie to you and not even feel guilty about it.
>> >
>> > >> -Kyle
>> >
>> > >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]<http:// 
>> mc/[email protected]>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>  Good Job! Hope everything else goes much smoother.
>> >
>> > >>> (The photo is My Dad & I trying to solve a signal problem  
>> with the
>> > >>> incorrect Clymer schematic)
>> >
>> > >>> My Mom says, "smile for the picture"!
>> >
>> > >>> Dec 31, 2009 05:20:44 PM,  
>> [email protected]<http://mc/compose? 
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> > >>>  Crud!
>> >
>> > >>> How do I attach a picture in a reply again (it doesn't seem  
>> so obvious
>> > >>> - though i figured it out some months ago!!)?
>> >
>> > >>> On Dec 31, 3:18 pm, oldschoolgwin wrote:
>> > >>> > Houston is clapping – yikes that was a scary one.
>> >
>> > >>> > I ended up heating the fork tube with Mr. Propano and then  
>> cooling (in
>> > >>> > theory – but effectiveness?) the top cap bolt with a can  
>> of compressed
>> > >>> > office cleaner upside down (a good gusher). Then cranked  
>> on it with a
>> > >>> > 3 ft breaker bar about as hard as I could and it moved.
>> >
>> > >>> > It’s an ugly bolt now though!
>> >
>> > >>> > IMG_3534-40%.JPG
>> >
>> > >>> > On Dec 31, 7:46 am, stanley/ Randolph wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> > > I would use engine oil. It actually penetrates better.  
>> Takes a little
>> > >>> longer but works better.
>> >
>> > >>> > > Stanley
>> >
>> > >>> > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Kim Paddock wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> > > From: Kim Paddock
>> > >>> > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is -  
>> el stucko!
>> > >>> > > To: [email protected]<http://mc/compose? 
>> [email protected]>
>> > >>> > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 1:59 PM
>> >
>> > >>> > > Hit it with a good penetrating oil and let it  
>> sit....that usually
>> > >>> works for me.
>> >
>> > >>> > > From: Dennis Hammerl
>> > >>> > > To: [email protected]<http://mc/compose? 
>> [email protected]>
>> > >>> > > Sent: Tue, December 29, 2009 11:23:57 PM
>> > >>> > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is -  
>> el stucko!
>> >
>> > >>> > > I don't have much of an answer for you. Don't know how  
>> much I've put
>> > >>> on 'em but it's been enough that two guys had to hold the  
>> bike from spinning
>> > >>> on the center stand. That's with my 2' bar and 3' tube  
>> combo. 5' X 150lb
>> > >>> weakling = ? I wonder if it's cross threaded or just  
>> corroded on. If you got
>> > >>> one off, you see that they are fine thread and have an O  
>> ring. i've heated
>> > >>> some stuff like that (not a fork though) and then applied an  
>> ice cube to the
>> > >>> cap to shrink it quickly. Could spray it with something cold  
>> too. Pulling on
>> > >>> the socket while heating might do it. The socket would act  
>> as a heat sink
>> > >>> and keep the cap cooler. If you can get another cap, you  
>> might have to crack
>> > >>> off the top rim with a small chisel. (leave the hex) The rim  
>> is where the
>> > >>> pressure is. Once off, unless cross threaded, it should back  
>> out easy. Good
>> > >>> luck.
>> >
>> > >>> > > --- On Wed, 12/30/09, oldschoolgwin wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> > > From: oldschoolgwin
>> > >>> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fork tube cap is - el  
>> stucko!
>> > >>> > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
>> > >>> > > Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 12:42 AM
>> >
>> > >>> > > Thanks Dennnis. I managed to get a socket that grips it  
>> much better.
>> > >>> > > In this case 27mm is the same as 1 1/16" (well actually  
>> 1 1/16' is
>> > >>> > > just slightly smaller to my advantage).
>> >
>> > >>> > > This socket grips it much better but i've put at least  
>> 100 lbs on it
>> > >>> > > and it won't budge. The scary part is what will give  
>> first as i push
>> > >>> > > harder - knowing the bolt head is not 100% to begin with  
>> - yikes.
>> >
>> > >>> > > I tried a propane torch and heated teh fork tube up to  
>> maybe 200-250F
>> > >>> > > and applied the 100 ft-lbs - no luck. Not sure if this  
>> would work
>> > >>> > > since the alumninum bolt expands faster than the steel  
>> fork tube.
>> >
>> > >>> > > Is there any other method too try before just increasing  
>> torque? How
>> > >>> > > about an Impact gun - not sure if this would be  
>> effectitve on an
>> > >>> > > aluminum hex head???
>> >
>> > >>> > > On Dec 27, 8:17 pm, Dennis Hammerl wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> > > > Well, first off it isn't 1 1/16". It's metric. The  
>> proper size 1/2"
>> > >>> drive 6 point socket should do. I prefer the "flank-drive"  
>> variety because
>> > >>> they apply contact in the middle of the flats. My personal  
>> choice is the
>> > >>> Kowa brand (Japan). They have a rather pronounced "flank- 
>> drive" I leave the
>> > >>> tubes in the fork and only loosen the top clamp. A 24" bar  
>> and a 3' tube
>> > >>> gets most anything. Sometimes you need someone to hold the  
>> bike. check with
>> > >>> any Jap bike dealers to see if any of their techs use Kowa  
>> sockets and try
>> > >>> to borrow one. The chisel is the last resort cause I have to  
>> buy the
>> > >>> replacement.
>> >
>> > >>> > > > --- On Sun, 12/27/09, oldschoolgwin wrote:
>> >
>> > >>> > > > From: oldschoolgwin
>> > >>> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Fork tube cap is - el stucko!
>> > >>> > > > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"
>> > >>> > > > Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 9:36 PM
>> >
>> > >>> > > > Hi All.
>> >
>> > >>> > > > Well I'm installing new fork seals on my 83 650.
>> >
>> > >>> > > > The left fork tube cap is stuck and it appears it was  
>> a victim of
>> > >>> some
>> > >>> > > > previous shade tree mechanic with a 1 size fits all  
>> wrench -
>> > >>> rounded
>> > >>> > > > corners on that cap and not much left.
>> >
>> > >>> > > > Any ideas on how to ge this off. A six point 1 1/16'  
>> socket doesn't
>> > >>> > > > want to grip it enough to break it loose.
>> >
>> > >>> > > > I guess if worse comes to worse i could drill two 1/4"  
>> through
>> > >>> holes
>> > >>> > > > and make a pinned spanner to remove it - but that is  
>> just more
>> > >>> effort
>> > >>> > > > than i like.
>> >
>> > >>> > > > Anyone know any tricks? Chisel and hammer at the edge?  
>> Options are
>> > >>> > > > looking so good!
>> >
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