Huh, I guess I'm just confused then, because the only reference to a starter clutch I can find in my service manual is under the part for the electric starter gears, and it says you have to remove the crankshaft to access. Is the starter clutch located on the starter itself, or inside the engine?

On 3/16/2010 8:56 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote:
Whoa.. stop. Cracking the crankcase open ? No way. The starter clutch is on the end of the crank. Now get a grip. The starter motor turns the driven gear and the driven gear runs against three rollers in the clutch body. When all this works right, the rollers jam up and the whole thing turns as one. When the motor starts, the rollers spin free. They "cam" up to start. When the starter clutch is cracked, it opens up a bit and the rollers don't jam. Hence... it doesn't work. I've seen lots of 'em. They hook up just fine by hand, not with a ton of force. It's fooling you. You'll need one special tool, a rotor puller. Threads in against the crank and as it tightens, it forces the rotor off. Clutch right behind it. Get a used one and inspect it for cracks, no new parts anymore. Getv the driven assembly too. Inspect for smooth surface, waves are only for the beach. Wrecked bikes are best for motor parts 'cause that why they are there, not mechanical failure. Parts same for any 400~450 twin. Order a new cover gasket, that you will need.

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*From:* Chuck Bridge <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Tue, March 16, 2010 11:33:55 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Starter problem?

Thanks for the reply, Dennis.

For my own edification, what part of my description makes it obvious that the starter clutch is bad? From what I've read, it's only supposed to turn one way, which mine still does. I'd like to make doubly sure that this is the problem before I start cracking the crankcase open.

Chuck

On 3/16/2010 7:57 PM, Dennis Hammerl wrote:
Yes. The problem is a cracked starter clutch. Replace it and ride on.

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*From:* Chuck Bridge <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Tue, March 16, 2010 6:42:40 PM
*Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Starter problem?

I finally was able to start my '82 CB450SC this weekend. I bought it after it was sitting in my friend's garage for about 5-6 years. He originally garaged it with an intermittent starter problem, saying that he could hear the starter spin, but the engine wouldn't turn over. When I got the bike, the starter was missing, so I picked up a used one from the local salvage yard, and installed it. After finishing dealing with the rust in my tank, and making sure my carbs aren't all nastied up, I got it running. Took a couple of attempts, but it started, and ran for about a minute. I then turned it off, and attempted to start it up again a couple of minutes later. Now, it appears that the starter problem that it was originally garaged with is back. If I try to turn the bike over, I can hear the starter whirring, but not engaging. I pulled the starter out to make sure that the teeth were all still there, and they are.

Any ideas?

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