we knew it was cheep then... and this was before they were on the net.... and also before i knew they had retail stores... this was catalog stuff only then... i kinda miss that.... some kids waited for there comic books, i waited for the new HF catalog... kinda suprized im not more of a gearhead then i already am
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>wrote: > Well, there's not much to go wrong with a drill press; however and > nevertheless, I am sure he got it when they were better quality than now. > The HF here has reduced the available items in their store. Want something > more than what's on the display shelves and tables, gotta go to the net. > If you don't see the sockets on a peg rack for individual sale, then you > know they probably don't have a bring-it-in-and-get-a-new-one > policy like Sears. > Stanley > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 10:13:13 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft > > on the other hand the drill press dad bought from HF when i was 6 just died > 4 years ago... and that thing got abused frequently.... so, he definitaly > got his use out of that one > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, stanley/ Randolph > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> There's a reason why those Jap two -stroke engines like Tanaka, >> Shindaiwa, Robin, and Honda are so expensive: they LAST for YEARS. The >> cheap Chinese copies are just copies with little or no adherence to >> top quality. Even if you find an expensive one, beware, because it >> (price) could be a ruse. >> BTW, Echo is good, but Shindaiwa is better. Their sales pitch is >> accurate: first to start, last to quit. I don't go do a lot of lawn >> service, but I know from the use I have gotten out of mine that it is better >> than a Honda trimmer. Guys I have talked with who do it big time and have a >> rig with three Shindaiwa trimmers and two Lexmark mowers don't have to buy >> new ones because the old one gave up. It's because they left one unlocked >> and someone coming by stole it while they weren't looking. >> All lawn service types lock their equipment on the trailers now and leave >> nothing lying around, for that reason. THEFT!!! >> I have one of those gensets with a 4-stroke, and it's the same thing, only >> it's not starting after *one* tank of fuel. >> Cheap Chinese engines. >> Stanley >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 6:45:00 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >> >> i havent had any issues returning crap epqupment to HF... i bought a pair >> of gensets from them a few months ago (yes i bought there replacement plan >> too).... those little 2hp 2 stroke gens werent worth crap and would all die >> on there 3rd tank of fuel.... so i would swap them out and take the bad one >> to the store....10 mins lateri had a new one... problem was that i got tired >> of swaping them out and returned them both for cash, no questions asked... >> >> >> and i love the kobolt tools >> >> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I no longer do PC repair full time so I've gone back to a regular >>> magnetic screwdriver. For the majority of my tools I usually go to Harbor >>> Freight because it's cheap, or Home Depot because it's close. I don't expect >>> much out of the HF tools, but I've been surprised by some too. Cheap and >>> they've lasted longer than I expected. I picked up a gimicky wobble headed >>> ratchet from them a few years ago. It didn't look very sturdy but it was >>> cheap so I gave it a try. That's the first one I reach for each time and >>> it's still going strong after several hours of wrenching on the cars and >>> bikes. >>> I traded in the old weed eater and bought an Echo. Straight shaft and it >>> starts on 3rd pull. I picked up spare heads for it at the time I bought it >>> so I'm not worried about it anymore. The lawnmower I've still got but I've >>> torn it down a couple of times and rebuilt it. Underneath that Craftsman >>> badging was a cheap tecumseh engine which isn't very stock anymore. I keep >>> threatening to buy a toro or honda mower but instead I keep rebuilding this >>> one... >>> >>> -Kyle >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, stanley/ Randolph >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Being as I buy commercial line trimmers, I don't have that problem. >>>> I go to one of the local shops to replace or repair what I can not do >>>> myself. I can get a new head for my Shindaiwa trimmer for around $40 and >>>> replace it myself. I have two heads now, one which feeds the line >>>> automatically without the bump thing; and the other, a bump head, which is >>>> the original and is starting to exhibit an imbalance, which means time for >>>> a >>>> new one. >>>> My Shindaiwa is like over 20years old and still starts on the third >>>> pull, and I have used it for doing lawns commercially. I have an Ariens >>>> 30" >>>> hedge clipper that I bought in 1988 and it still starts the third pull. Of >>>> course, I use Amsoil two stroke oil for lawn equipment... >>>> Other things, I usually buy commercial grade because I know that almost >>>> all of the merchandise they sell today is made mostly for the homeowner to >>>> use on a single job or two around the house and then sit and collect dust, >>>> until out of warranty, and then you use it maybe a year or two down the >>>> line >>>> and it gives up. >>>> WallyWorld does sell Stanley hand tools, which are good and reasonably >>>> priced, but the warranty thing is still the problem. I do not wear out >>>> tools like I used to, so the best bet for the money is the Stanley sets at >>>> WW or Pittsburg at Harbor Frgt. >>>> If you want a good small driver for working on computers all day I would >>>> get a Makita, Bosch, or Rigid, the latter which you can get guaranteed for >>>> life free online after purchase. Bosch makes some of their stuff in China >>>> now, but it must meet the German specs or gets rejected. A friend of mine >>>> who ownd a fastener business sell mostly US made, but deals with suppliers >>>> who buy Chinese, but to their specs. They have to inspect every shipment >>>> and if it doesn't pass muster they reject iot and send it back. Their >>>> Chinese suppliers have learned not to try to pass something off on them. >>>> In >>>> those cases, Chinese is grudgingly acceptable to my friend. >>>> I have broken off or rounded out many screws or screwheads from Lowe's >>>> or home Depot, or WallyWorld until I found out he sells sheetrock, wood, >>>> and >>>> sheet metal screws: no more broken screws or rounded out heads.. And >>>> that's not mentioning the poor quality and ridiculous price for bits at >>>> those places... >>>> >>>> Stanley >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 5:33:30 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >>>> >>>> Bad customer service is usually the first sign that a nat'l chain is >>>> about to go under. They used to sell a small electric screwdriver. I've >>>> never seen another one that small and handy. Not much power, but perfect >>>> amount of torque for working on PCs. I was using one 8hours a day but they >>>> would only last around 4-5 mos. I'd take it back and swap it out. The third >>>> one they decided not to replace for me. They decided I was being too rough >>>> on it. I guess I wasn't supposed to use it to turn screws. >>>> I also had a Craftsman brand lawnmower that essentially was crap. Again >>>> same customer service problems, trying to get them to own up to their own >>>> faulty products. >>>> My favorite is that you can no longer get parts through their retail >>>> stores. You have to find one of their warehouses or repair centers which >>>> are >>>> always inconveniently placed. Why the !#$% can't I order another head for >>>> my >>>> weed eater where I bought it? Would it kill them to have it at the store >>>> the >>>> next day for me to pick up? Really? >>>> >>>> -Kyle >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Was it Sears or was it K-Mart? Or did they just do a mutual >>>>> merger? I never heard the whole story. But you're right, it's not the >>>>> same, and they outsource their appliance repair now, and have sold off >>>>> their >>>>> fleet of trucks and vans. >>>>> I see now that you still have a choice between made here or made in >>>>> China, mostly in self-defense. But the China goods don't have the >>>>> lifetime >>>>> warranty. >>>>> >>>>> Stanley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 8:43:16 AM >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >>>>> >>>>> Sears is not what it once was. 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