Northern tool still has a catalogue. On 7/26/10, paul annen <[email protected]> wrote: > we knew it was cheep then... and this was before they were on the net.... > and also before i knew they had retail stores... this was catalog stuff only > then... i kinda miss that.... some kids waited for there comic books, i > waited for the new HF catalog... kinda suprized im not more of a gearhead > then i already am > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, stanley/ Randolph > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Well, there's not much to go wrong with a drill press; however and >> nevertheless, I am sure he got it when they were better quality than now. >> The HF here has reduced the available items in their store. Want >> something >> more than what's on the display shelves and tables, gotta go to the net. >> If you don't see the sockets on a peg rack for individual sale, then you >> know they probably don't have a bring-it-in-and-get-a-new-one >> policy like Sears. >> Stanley >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 10:13:13 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >> >> on the other hand the drill press dad bought from HF when i was 6 just >> died >> 4 years ago... and that thing got abused frequently.... so, he definitaly >> got his use out of that one >> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, stanley/ Randolph >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> There's a reason why those Jap two -stroke engines like Tanaka, >>> Shindaiwa, Robin, and Honda are so expensive: they LAST for YEARS. The >>> cheap Chinese copies are just copies with little or no adherence to >>> top quality. Even if you find an expensive one, beware, because it >>> (price) could be a ruse. >>> BTW, Echo is good, but Shindaiwa is better. Their sales pitch is >>> accurate: first to start, last to quit. I don't go do a lot of lawn >>> service, but I know from the use I have gotten out of mine that it is >>> better >>> than a Honda trimmer. Guys I have talked with who do it big time and >>> have a >>> rig with three Shindaiwa trimmers and two Lexmark mowers don't have to >>> buy >>> new ones because the old one gave up. It's because they left one >>> unlocked >>> and someone coming by stole it while they weren't looking. >>> All lawn service types lock their equipment on the trailers now and leave >>> nothing lying around, for that reason. THEFT!!! >>> I have one of those gensets with a 4-stroke, and it's the same thing, >>> only >>> it's not starting after *one* tank of fuel. >>> Cheap Chinese engines. >>> Stanley >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 6:45:00 AM >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >>> >>> i havent had any issues returning crap epqupment to HF... i bought a pair >>> of gensets from them a few months ago (yes i bought there replacement >>> plan >>> too).... those little 2hp 2 stroke gens werent worth crap and would all >>> die >>> on there 3rd tank of fuel.... so i would swap them out and take the bad >>> one >>> to the store....10 mins lateri had a new one... problem was that i got >>> tired >>> of swaping them out and returned them both for cash, no questions >>> asked... >>> >>> >>> and i love the kobolt tools >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I no longer do PC repair full time so I've gone back to a regular >>>> magnetic screwdriver. For the majority of my tools I usually go to >>>> Harbor >>>> Freight because it's cheap, or Home Depot because it's close. I don't >>>> expect >>>> much out of the HF tools, but I've been surprised by some too. Cheap and >>>> they've lasted longer than I expected. I picked up a gimicky wobble >>>> headed >>>> ratchet from them a few years ago. It didn't look very sturdy but it was >>>> cheap so I gave it a try. That's the first one I reach for each time and >>>> it's still going strong after several hours of wrenching on the cars and >>>> bikes. >>>> I traded in the old weed eater and bought an Echo. Straight shaft and it >>>> starts on 3rd pull. I picked up spare heads for it at the time I bought >>>> it >>>> so I'm not worried about it anymore. The lawnmower I've still got but >>>> I've >>>> torn it down a couple of times and rebuilt it. Underneath that Craftsman >>>> badging was a cheap tecumseh engine which isn't very stock anymore. I >>>> keep >>>> threatening to buy a toro or honda mower but instead I keep rebuilding >>>> this >>>> one... >>>> >>>> -Kyle >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, stanley/ Randolph >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Being as I buy commercial line trimmers, I don't have that problem. >>>>> I go to one of the local shops to replace or repair what I can not do >>>>> myself. I can get a new head for my Shindaiwa trimmer for around $40 >>>>> and >>>>> replace it myself. I have two heads now, one which feeds the line >>>>> automatically without the bump thing; and the other, a bump head, which >>>>> is >>>>> the original and is starting to exhibit an imbalance, which means time >>>>> for a >>>>> new one. >>>>> My Shindaiwa is like over 20years old and still starts on the third >>>>> pull, and I have used it for doing lawns commercially. I have an >>>>> Ariens 30" >>>>> hedge clipper that I bought in 1988 and it still starts the third >>>>> pull. Of >>>>> course, I use Amsoil two stroke oil for lawn equipment... >>>>> Other things, I usually buy commercial grade because I know that almost >>>>> all of the merchandise they sell today is made mostly for the homeowner >>>>> to >>>>> use on a single job or two around the house and then sit and collect >>>>> dust, >>>>> until out of warranty, and then you use it maybe a year or two down the >>>>> line >>>>> and it gives up. >>>>> WallyWorld does sell Stanley hand tools, which are good and reasonably >>>>> priced, but the warranty thing is still the problem. I do not wear out >>>>> tools like I used to, so the best bet for the money is the Stanley sets >>>>> at >>>>> WW or Pittsburg at Harbor Frgt. >>>>> If you want a good small driver for working on computers all day I >>>>> would >>>>> get a Makita, Bosch, or Rigid, the latter which you can get guaranteed >>>>> for >>>>> life free online after purchase. Bosch makes some of their stuff in >>>>> China >>>>> now, but it must meet the German specs or gets rejected. A friend of >>>>> mine >>>>> who ownd a fastener business sell mostly US made, but deals with >>>>> suppliers >>>>> who buy Chinese, but to their specs. They have to inspect every >>>>> shipment >>>>> and if it doesn't pass muster they reject iot and send it back. Their >>>>> Chinese suppliers have learned not to try to pass something off on >>>>> them. In >>>>> those cases, Chinese is grudgingly acceptable to my friend. >>>>> I have broken off or rounded out many screws or screwheads from Lowe's >>>>> or home Depot, or WallyWorld until I found out he sells sheetrock, >>>>> wood, and >>>>> sheet metal screws: no more broken screws or rounded out heads.. And >>>>> that's not mentioning the poor quality and ridiculous price for bits at >>>>> those places... >>>>> >>>>> Stanley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 5:33:30 PM >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >>>>> >>>>> Bad customer service is usually the first sign that a nat'l chain is >>>>> about to go under. They used to sell a small electric screwdriver. I've >>>>> never seen another one that small and handy. Not much power, but >>>>> perfect >>>>> amount of torque for working on PCs. I was using one 8hours a day but >>>>> they >>>>> would only last around 4-5 mos. I'd take it back and swap it out. The >>>>> third >>>>> one they decided not to replace for me. They decided I was being too >>>>> rough >>>>> on it. I guess I wasn't supposed to use it to turn screws. >>>>> I also had a Craftsman brand lawnmower that essentially was crap. Again >>>>> same customer service problems, trying to get them to own up to their >>>>> own >>>>> faulty products. >>>>> My favorite is that you can no longer get parts through their retail >>>>> stores. You have to find one of their warehouses or repair centers >>>>> which are >>>>> always inconveniently placed. Why the !#$% can't I order another head >>>>> for my >>>>> weed eater where I bought it? Would it kill them to have it at the >>>>> store the >>>>> next day for me to pick up? Really? >>>>> >>>>> -Kyle >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Was it Sears or was it K-Mart? Or did they just do a mutual >>>>>> merger? I never heard the whole story. But you're right, it's not >>>>>> the >>>>>> same, and they outsource their appliance repair now, and have sold off >>>>>> their >>>>>> fleet of trucks and vans. >>>>>> I see now that you still have a choice between made here or made in >>>>>> China, mostly in self-defense. But the China goods don't have the >>>>>> lifetime >>>>>> warranty. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stanley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 8:43:16 AM >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft >>>>>> >>>>>> Sears is not what it once was. 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