and a local store for me.... On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Northern tool still has a catalogue. > > On 7/26/10, paul annen <[email protected]> wrote: > > we knew it was cheep then... and this was before they were on the net.... > > and also before i knew they had retail stores... this was catalog stuff > only > > then... i kinda miss that.... some kids waited for there comic books, i > > waited for the new HF catalog... kinda suprized im not more of a gearhead > > then i already am > > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, stanley/ Randolph > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Well, there's not much to go wrong with a drill press; however and > >> nevertheless, I am sure he got it when they were better quality than > now. > >> The HF here has reduced the available items in their store. Want > >> something > >> more than what's on the display shelves and tables, gotta go to the net. > >> If you don't see the sockets on a peg rack for individual sale, then you > >> know they probably don't have a bring-it-in-and-get-a-new-one > >> policy like Sears. > >> Stanley > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> > >> *To:* [email protected] > >> *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 10:13:13 AM > >> > >> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft > >> > >> on the other hand the drill press dad bought from HF when i was 6 just > >> died > >> 4 years ago... and that thing got abused frequently.... so, he > definitaly > >> got his use out of that one > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, stanley/ Randolph > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >>> There's a reason why those Jap two -stroke engines like Tanaka, > >>> Shindaiwa, Robin, and Honda are so expensive: they LAST for YEARS. > The > >>> cheap Chinese copies are just copies with little or no adherence to > >>> top quality. Even if you find an expensive one, beware, because it > >>> (price) could be a ruse. > >>> BTW, Echo is good, but Shindaiwa is better. Their sales pitch is > >>> accurate: first to start, last to quit. I don't go do a lot of lawn > >>> service, but I know from the use I have gotten out of mine that it is > >>> better > >>> than a Honda trimmer. Guys I have talked with who do it big time and > >>> have a > >>> rig with three Shindaiwa trimmers and two Lexmark mowers don't have to > >>> buy > >>> new ones because the old one gave up. It's because they left one > >>> unlocked > >>> and someone coming by stole it while they weren't looking. > >>> All lawn service types lock their equipment on the trailers now and > leave > >>> nothing lying around, for that reason. THEFT!!! > >>> I have one of those gensets with a 4-stroke, and it's the same thing, > >>> only > >>> it's not starting after *one* tank of fuel. > >>> Cheap Chinese engines. > >>> Stanley > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> *From:* paul annen <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> *To:* [email protected] > >>> *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 6:45:00 AM > >>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft > >>> > >>> i havent had any issues returning crap epqupment to HF... i bought a > pair > >>> of gensets from them a few months ago (yes i bought there replacement > >>> plan > >>> too).... those little 2hp 2 stroke gens werent worth crap and would all > >>> die > >>> on there 3rd tank of fuel.... so i would swap them out and take the bad > >>> one > >>> to the store....10 mins lateri had a new one... problem was that i got > >>> tired > >>> of swaping them out and returned them both for cash, no questions > >>> asked... > >>> > >>> > >>> and i love the kobolt tools > >>> > >>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> I no longer do PC repair full time so I've gone back to a regular > >>>> magnetic screwdriver. For the majority of my tools I usually go to > >>>> Harbor > >>>> Freight because it's cheap, or Home Depot because it's close. I don't > >>>> expect > >>>> much out of the HF tools, but I've been surprised by some too. Cheap > and > >>>> they've lasted longer than I expected. I picked up a gimicky wobble > >>>> headed > >>>> ratchet from them a few years ago. It didn't look very sturdy but it > was > >>>> cheap so I gave it a try. That's the first one I reach for each time > and > >>>> it's still going strong after several hours of wrenching on the cars > and > >>>> bikes. > >>>> I traded in the old weed eater and bought an Echo. Straight shaft and > it > >>>> starts on 3rd pull. I picked up spare heads for it at the time I > bought > >>>> it > >>>> so I'm not worried about it anymore. The lawnmower I've still got but > >>>> I've > >>>> torn it down a couple of times and rebuilt it. Underneath that > Craftsman > >>>> badging was a cheap tecumseh engine which isn't very stock anymore. I > >>>> keep > >>>> threatening to buy a toro or honda mower but instead I keep rebuilding > >>>> this > >>>> one... > >>>> > >>>> -Kyle > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, stanley/ Randolph > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Being as I buy commercial line trimmers, I don't have that problem. > >>>>> I go to one of the local shops to replace or repair what I can not do > >>>>> myself. I can get a new head for my Shindaiwa trimmer for around > $40 > >>>>> and > >>>>> replace it myself. I have two heads now, one which feeds the line > >>>>> automatically without the bump thing; and the other, a bump head, > which > >>>>> is > >>>>> the original and is starting to exhibit an imbalance, which means > time > >>>>> for a > >>>>> new one. > >>>>> My Shindaiwa is like over 20years old and still starts on the third > >>>>> pull, and I have used it for doing lawns commercially. I have an > >>>>> Ariens 30" > >>>>> hedge clipper that I bought in 1988 and it still starts the third > >>>>> pull. Of > >>>>> course, I use Amsoil two stroke oil for lawn equipment... > >>>>> Other things, I usually buy commercial grade because I know that > almost > >>>>> all of the merchandise they sell today is made mostly for the > homeowner > >>>>> to > >>>>> use on a single job or two around the house and then sit and collect > >>>>> dust, > >>>>> until out of warranty, and then you use it maybe a year or two down > the > >>>>> line > >>>>> and it gives up. > >>>>> WallyWorld does sell Stanley hand tools, which are good and > reasonably > >>>>> priced, but the warranty thing is still the problem. I do not wear > out > >>>>> tools like I used to, so the best bet for the money is the Stanley > sets > >>>>> at > >>>>> WW or Pittsburg at Harbor Frgt. > >>>>> If you want a good small driver for working on computers all day I > >>>>> would > >>>>> get a Makita, Bosch, or Rigid, the latter which you can get > guaranteed > >>>>> for > >>>>> life free online after purchase. Bosch makes some of their stuff in > >>>>> China > >>>>> now, but it must meet the German specs or gets rejected. A friend of > >>>>> mine > >>>>> who ownd a fastener business sell mostly US made, but deals with > >>>>> suppliers > >>>>> who buy Chinese, but to their specs. They have to inspect every > >>>>> shipment > >>>>> and if it doesn't pass muster they reject iot and send it back. > Their > >>>>> Chinese suppliers have learned not to try to pass something off on > >>>>> them. In > >>>>> those cases, Chinese is grudgingly acceptable to my friend. > >>>>> I have broken off or rounded out many screws or screwheads from > Lowe's > >>>>> or home Depot, or WallyWorld until I found out he sells sheetrock, > >>>>> wood, and > >>>>> sheet metal screws: no more broken screws or rounded out heads.. > And > >>>>> that's not mentioning the poor quality and ridiculous price for bits > at > >>>>> those places... > >>>>> > >>>>> Stanley > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>> *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > >>>>> > >>>>> *To:* [email protected] > >>>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 5:33:30 PM > >>>>> > >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft > >>>>> > >>>>> Bad customer service is usually the first sign that a nat'l chain is > >>>>> about to go under. They used to sell a small electric screwdriver. > I've > >>>>> never seen another one that small and handy. Not much power, but > >>>>> perfect > >>>>> amount of torque for working on PCs. I was using one 8hours a day but > >>>>> they > >>>>> would only last around 4-5 mos. I'd take it back and swap it out. The > >>>>> third > >>>>> one they decided not to replace for me. They decided I was being too > >>>>> rough > >>>>> on it. I guess I wasn't supposed to use it to turn screws. > >>>>> I also had a Craftsman brand lawnmower that essentially was crap. > Again > >>>>> same customer service problems, trying to get them to own up to their > >>>>> own > >>>>> faulty products. > >>>>> My favorite is that you can no longer get parts through their retail > >>>>> stores. You have to find one of their warehouses or repair centers > >>>>> which are > >>>>> always inconveniently placed. Why the !#$% can't I order another head > >>>>> for my > >>>>> weed eater where I bought it? Would it kill them to have it at the > >>>>> store the > >>>>> next day for me to pick up? Really? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Kyle > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM, stanley/ Randolph < > [email protected] > >>>>> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Was it Sears or was it K-Mart? Or did they just do a mutual > >>>>>> merger? I never heard the whole story. But you're right, it's not > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> same, and they outsource their appliance repair now, and have sold > off > >>>>>> their > >>>>>> fleet of trucks and vans. > >>>>>> I see now that you still have a choice between made here or made in > >>>>>> China, mostly in self-defense. But the China goods don't have the > >>>>>> lifetime > >>>>>> warranty. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Stanley > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ------------------------------ > >>>>>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] > >>>>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 8:43:16 AM > >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Sears is not what it once was. 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