on the other hand the drill press dad bought from HF when i was 6 just died
4 years ago... and that thing got abused frequently.... so, he definitaly
got his use out of that one

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:09 AM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]>wrote:

> There's a reason why those Jap two -stroke engines like Tanaka, Shindaiwa,
> Robin, and Honda are so expensive:  they LAST for YEARS.  The cheap Chinese
> copies are just copies with little or no adherence to top quality.  Even if
> you find an expensive one, beware, because it (price) could be a ruse.
> BTW, Echo is good, but Shindaiwa is better.  Their sales pitch is
> accurate:  first to start, last to quit.  I don't go do a lot of lawn
> service, but I know from the use I have gotten out of mine that it is better
> than a Honda trimmer.  Guys I have talked with who do it big time and have a
> rig with three Shindaiwa trimmers and two Lexmark mowers don't have to buy
> new ones because the old one gave up.  It's because they left one unlocked
> and someone coming by stole it while they weren't looking.
> All lawn service types lock their equipment on the trailers now and leave
> nothing lying around, for that reason.  THEFT!!!
> I have one of those gensets with a 4-stroke, and it's the same thing, only
> it's not starting after *one* tank of fuel.
> Cheap Chinese engines.
> Stanley
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* paul annen <[email protected]>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Mon, July 26, 2010 6:45:00 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft
>
> i havent had any issues returning crap epqupment to HF... i bought a pair
> of gensets from them a few months ago (yes i bought there replacement plan
> too).... those little 2hp 2 stroke gens werent worth crap and would all die
> on there 3rd tank of fuel.... so i would swap them out and take the bad one
> to the store....10 mins lateri had a new one... problem was that i got tired
> of swaping them out and returned them both for cash, no questions asked...
>
>
> and i love the kobolt tools
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I no longer do PC repair full time so I've gone back to a regular magnetic
>> screwdriver. For the majority of my tools I usually go to Harbor Freight
>> because it's cheap, or Home Depot because it's close. I don't expect much
>> out of the HF tools, but I've been surprised by some too. Cheap and they've
>> lasted longer than I expected. I picked up a gimicky wobble headed ratchet
>> from them a few years ago. It didn't look very sturdy but it was cheap so I
>> gave it a try. That's the first one I reach for each time and it's still
>> going strong after several hours of wrenching on the cars and bikes.
>> I traded in the old weed eater and bought an Echo. Straight shaft and it
>> starts on 3rd pull. I picked up spare heads for it at the time I bought it
>> so I'm not worried about it anymore. The lawnmower I've still got but I've
>> torn it down a couple of times and rebuilt it. Underneath that Craftsman
>> badging was a cheap tecumseh engine which isn't very stock anymore. I keep
>> threatening to buy a toro or honda mower but instead I keep rebuilding this
>> one...
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:17 PM, stanley/ Randolph 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>>   Being as I buy commercial line trimmers, I don't have that problem.  I
>>> go to one of the local shops to replace or repair what I can not do myself.
>>> I can get a new  head for my Shindaiwa trimmer for around $40 and replace it
>>> myself.  I have two heads now, one which feeds the line automatically
>>> without the bump thing; and the other, a bump head, which is the original
>>> and is starting to exhibit an imbalance, which means time for a new one.
>>> My Shindaiwa is like over 20years old and still starts on the third pull,
>>> and I have used it for doing lawns commercially.  I have an Ariens 30" hedge
>>> clipper that I bought in 1988 and it still starts the third  pull. Of
>>> course, I use Amsoil two stroke oil for lawn equipment...
>>> Other things, I usually buy commercial grade because I know that almost
>>> all of the merchandise they sell today is made mostly for the homeowner to
>>> use on a single job or two around the house and then sit and collect dust,
>>> until out of warranty, and then you use it maybe a year or two down the line
>>> and it gives up.
>>> WallyWorld does sell Stanley hand tools, which are good and reasonably
>>> priced, but the warranty thing is still the problem.  I do not wear out
>>> tools like I used to, so the best bet for the money is the Stanley sets at
>>> WW or Pittsburg at Harbor Frgt.
>>> If you want a good small driver for working on computers all day I would
>>> get a Makita, Bosch, or Rigid, the latter which you can get guaranteed for
>>> life free online after purchase.  Bosch makes some of their stuff in China
>>> now, but it must meet the German specs or gets rejected.  A friend of mine
>>> who ownd a fastener business sell mostly US made, but deals with suppliers
>>> who buy Chinese, but to their specs.  They have to inspect every shipment
>>> and if it doesn't pass muster they reject iot and send it back.  Their
>>> Chinese suppliers have learned not to try to pass something off on them.  In
>>> those cases, Chinese is grudgingly acceptable to my friend.
>>> I have broken off or rounded out  many screws or screwheads from Lowe's
>>> or home Depot, or WallyWorld until I found out he sells sheetrock, wood, and
>>> sheet metal screws:  no more broken screws or rounded out heads..  And
>>> that's not mentioning the poor quality and ridiculous price for bits at
>>> those places...
>>>
>>> Stanley
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 5:33:30 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft
>>>
>>> Bad customer service is usually the first sign that a nat'l chain is
>>> about to go under. They used to sell a small electric screwdriver. I've
>>> never seen another one that small and handy. Not much power, but perfect
>>> amount of torque for working on PCs. I was using one 8hours a day but they
>>> would only last around 4-5 mos. I'd take it back and swap it out. The third
>>> one they decided not to replace for me. They decided I was being too rough
>>> on it. I guess I wasn't supposed to use it to turn screws.
>>> I also had a Craftsman brand lawnmower that essentially was crap. Again
>>> same customer service problems, trying to get them to own up to their own
>>> faulty products.
>>> My favorite is that you can no longer get parts through their retail
>>> stores. You have to find one of their warehouses or repair centers which are
>>> always inconveniently placed. Why the !#$% can't I order another head for my
>>> weed eater where I bought it? Would it kill them to have it at the store the
>>> next day for me to pick up? Really?
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 4:34 PM, stanley/ Randolph 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Was it Sears or was it K-Mart?  Or did they just do a mutual merger?
>>>> I  never heard the whole story.  But you're right, it's not the same, and
>>>> they outsource their appliance repair now, and have sold off their fleet of
>>>> trucks and vans.
>>>> I see now that you still have a choice between made here or made in
>>>> China, mostly in self-defense.  But the China goods don't have the lifetime
>>>> warranty.
>>>>
>>>> Stanley
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Sent:* Sun, July 25, 2010 8:43:16 AM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] tool theft
>>>>
>>>> Sears is not what it once was.  Keep in mind they were bankrupt just a
>>>> few years ago and now are part of Kmart.
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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