Kyle,
That was also what I was taught - and I think its good advice.
Where we all have (or tend to at least) older bikes our centers of
gravity are not as low as newer models and a little caution is always
a good thing.
Of course - if you have a failure of either braking system, and
you're already using both, you have at least a chance of getting
stopped without damage.
-Joey
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
> One of the things they taught us in BRC was to always use both brakes no
> matter the situation just to stay in the habit of it. That way if you do end
> up in a panic situation you're reflex is already set to go to both. I
> probably apply the front brake more, but I definitely use both.
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I must say Javier - that was a great link - it describes almost
>> exactly what I was taught!
>> It also brings to light two important points: The bike you're
>> riding and the conditions you're riding it in are more important than
>> some fixed percentage of braking effort per wheel.
>> For instance - under 5 MPH I locked the rear on that GS-1000 I
>> purchased. Why? Well, Being as it was the first stop I ever made with
>> that bike, I wasn't used to it. The disc on the rear works much better
>> than the drum on my 450. Second I was stopping on a severe amount of
>> dirt at a stop sign. Thus, it would have been more appropriate to be
>> on both brakes at 2-5% power than one at 10%. On the other hand - I
>> locked it and slid for maybe 6 inches. I wasn't worried.
>> -Joey
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I found this article about braking interesting:
>> > http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=030&Set=001-034
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Noah Goodall <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wheel-less? This is an motorcycle driving simulator used in a report I
>> >> was
>> >> just reading. They found that motorcyclists use front brakes a lot more
>> >> than
>> >> they did in the 70s, but now forget to use the rear brakes.
>> >>
>> >> The report:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/NVS/Crash%20Avoidance/Technical%20Publications/2011/811448.pdf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Allen,
>> >>> You design R/C airplanes? Building them out of wood? Plastic?
>> >>> Fiberglass?
>> >>> Trial and error on the designs or do you do some prototyping
>> >>> or simulations or???
>> >>> -Joey
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Torque steer is a big issue on take off for single prop planes
>> >>> > especially on a tail wheel steering. I design and build R/C planes
>> >>> > and if
>> >>> > one is under powered, has the main gear too far forward, or has too
>> >>> > small a
>> >>> > rudder it will ground loop on you.
>> >>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>> > From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >>> > Sender: [email protected]
>> >>> > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:16:44
>> >>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not exactly On Topic: Different
>> >>> > MotorcycleEngine Configurations
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On that same note - they do have that 'torque steer' problem on
>> >>> > single
>> >>> > blade aircraft and single prop boats - (heard first hand accounts
>> >>> > from
>> >>> > pilots and captains on this) Not sure about the bike though...
>> >>> > -Joey
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Allen Thomas
>> >>> > <[email protected]>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> I have heard the torque affects the leaning of the bike so you need
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> roll on when leaning one way and roll off the other way. But that
>> >>> >> is 3rd
>> >>> >> party scuttlebutt since I've never rode one to know for sure.
>> >>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> Sender: [email protected]
>> >>> >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:20:04
>> >>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not exactly On Topic: Different
>> >>> >> Motorcycle
>> >>> >> Engine Configurations
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Doesn't that provide for better cooling of each cylinder than say a
>> >>> >> HD
>> >>> >> design?
>> >>> >> Same idea as the Guzzi's or those wide flat BMW bikes eh?
>> >>> >> Wonder how they corner?
>> >>> >> Kyle - you ever been on one?
>> >>> >> -Joey
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:54 AM, paul annen <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>> how about indians only shaft drive bike, and it was a transverse
>> >>> >>> v-twin....
>> >>> >>> i would kill to have one of these...
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> All,
>> >>> >>>> We've been having some fun on another thread so lets make
>> >>> >>>> it
>> >>> >>>> official - Wacky / weird / Different motorcycle engine
>> >>> >>>> configurations.
>> >>> >>>> Graham - can you tell us some more about the Suzuki RE5
>> >>> >>>> you
>> >>> >>>> briefly owned?
>> >>> >>>> Allen - any more thoughts on the Turbine powered bikes?
>> >>> >>>> -Joey
>> >>> >>>>
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