i was also told to use both breaks, but the instructor also told us to vary
the amount on each set based on bike and conditions... that being said my GL
has a linked break system where the rear dick is linked with the front right
disk... i don tlike it, front breaks should be front breaks and rear breaks
should be reat breaks.. ive found that ive become more lazy after finding
that... i could change it, but i am getting more lazy about it...

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes Joey, I think fixed percentages give you a general idea, but at the end
> bikes are different, and technology keeps going forward. I had a similar
> situation with a 90 cbr1000f I picked up few weeks ago. It is older than the
> NH, but it had linked brakes, meaning that when you apply the front brake
> the rear brake will engage gradually. I had to stop short a couple of times
> and in both occasions I loked the rear tire, mainly because I was pressing
> hard both brakes as I do on the NH. Good thing this was before I put the new
> tires on.
>
> Javier.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I must say Javier - that was a great link - it describes almost
>> exactly what I was taught!
>>        It also brings to light two important points: The bike you're
>> riding and the conditions you're riding it in are more important than
>> some fixed percentage of braking effort per wheel.
>>        For instance - under 5 MPH I locked the rear on that GS-1000 I
>> purchased. Why? Well, Being as it was the first stop I ever made with
>> that bike, I wasn't used to it. The disc on the rear works much better
>> than the drum on my 450. Second I was stopping on a severe amount of
>> dirt at a stop sign. Thus, it would have been more appropriate to be
>> on both brakes at 2-5% power than one at 10%. On the other hand - I
>> locked it and slid for maybe 6 inches. I wasn't worried.
>>        -Joey
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > I found this article about braking interesting:
>> > http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=030&Set=001-034
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Noah Goodall <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wheel-less? This is an motorcycle driving simulator used in a report I
>> was
>> >> just reading. They found that motorcyclists use front brakes a lot more
>> than
>> >> they did in the 70s, but now forget to use the rear brakes.
>> >>
>> >> The report:
>> >>
>> http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/NVS/Crash%20Avoidance/Technical%20Publications/2011/811448.pdf
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Allen,
>> >>>         You design R/C airplanes? Building them out of wood? Plastic?
>> >>> Fiberglass?
>> >>>         Trial and error on the designs or do you do some prototyping
>> >>> or simulations or???
>> >>>          -Joey
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Torque steer is a big issue on take off for single prop planes
>> >>> > especially on a tail wheel steering. I design and build R/C planes
>> and if
>> >>> > one is under powered, has the main gear too far forward, or has too
>> small a
>> >>> > rudder it will ground loop on you.
>> >>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>> >
>> >>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>> > From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >>> > Sender: [email protected]
>> >>> > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:16:44
>> >>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not exactly On Topic: Different
>> >>> >  MotorcycleEngine Configurations
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On that same note - they do have that 'torque steer' problem on
>> single
>> >>> > blade aircraft and single prop boats - (heard first hand accounts
>> from
>> >>> > pilots and captains on this) Not sure about the bike though...
>> >>> >      -Joey
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Allen Thomas <
>> [email protected]>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >> I have heard the torque affects the leaning of the bike so you need
>> to
>> >>> >> roll on when leaning one way and roll off the other way. But that
>> is 3rd
>> >>> >> party scuttlebutt since I've never rode one to know for sure.
>> >>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> Sender: [email protected]
>> >>> >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:20:04
>> >>> >> To: <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not exactly On Topic: Different
>> >>> >> Motorcycle
>> >>> >>  Engine Configurations
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Doesn't that provide for better cooling of each cylinder than say a
>> HD
>> >>> >> design?
>> >>> >>       Same idea as the Guzzi's or those wide flat BMW bikes eh?
>> >>> >>       Wonder how they corner?
>> >>> >>        Kyle - you ever been on one?
>> >>> >>       -Joey
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:54 AM, paul annen <[email protected]
>> >
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>> how about indians only shaft drive bike, and it was a transverse
>> >>> >>> v-twin....
>> >>> >>> i would kill to have one of these...
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]>
>> >>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> All,
>> >>> >>>>        We've been having some fun on another thread so lets make
>> it
>> >>> >>>> official - Wacky / weird / Different motorcycle engine
>> >>> >>>> configurations.
>> >>> >>>>        Graham - can you tell us some more about the Suzuki RE5
>> you
>> >>> >>>> briefly owned?
>> >>> >>>>        Allen - any more thoughts on the Turbine powered bikes?
>> >>> >>>>        -Joey
>> >>> >>>>
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