Yes Joey, I think fixed percentages give you a general idea, but at the end bikes are different, and technology keeps going forward. I had a similar situation with a 90 cbr1000f I picked up few weeks ago. It is older than the NH, but it had linked brakes, meaning that when you apply the front brake the rear brake will engage gradually. I had to stop short a couple of times and in both occasions I loked the rear tire, mainly because I was pressing hard both brakes as I do on the NH. Good thing this was before I put the new tires on.
Javier. On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > I must say Javier - that was a great link - it describes almost > exactly what I was taught! > It also brings to light two important points: The bike you're > riding and the conditions you're riding it in are more important than > some fixed percentage of braking effort per wheel. > For instance - under 5 MPH I locked the rear on that GS-1000 I > purchased. Why? Well, Being as it was the first stop I ever made with > that bike, I wasn't used to it. The disc on the rear works much better > than the drum on my 450. Second I was stopping on a severe amount of > dirt at a stop sign. Thus, it would have been more appropriate to be > on both brakes at 2-5% power than one at 10%. On the other hand - I > locked it and slid for maybe 6 inches. I wasn't worried. > -Joey > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I found this article about braking interesting: > > http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=030&Set=001-034 > > > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Noah Goodall <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Wheel-less? This is an motorcycle driving simulator used in a report I > was > >> just reading. They found that motorcyclists use front brakes a lot more > than > >> they did in the 70s, but now forget to use the rear brakes. > >> > >> The report: > >> > http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA/NVS/Crash%20Avoidance/Technical%20Publications/2011/811448.pdf > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Allen, > >>> You design R/C airplanes? Building them out of wood? Plastic? > >>> Fiberglass? > >>> Trial and error on the designs or do you do some prototyping > >>> or simulations or??? > >>> -Joey > >>> > >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > Torque steer is a big issue on take off for single prop planes > >>> > especially on a tail wheel steering. I design and build R/C planes > and if > >>> > one is under powered, has the main gear too far forward, or has too > small a > >>> > rudder it will ground loop on you. > >>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>> > > >>> > -----Original Message----- > >>> > From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > >>> > Sender: [email protected] > >>> > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:16:44 > >>> > To: <[email protected]> > >>> > Reply-To: [email protected] > >>> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not exactly On Topic: Different > >>> > MotorcycleEngine Configurations > >>> > > >>> > On that same note - they do have that 'torque steer' problem on > single > >>> > blade aircraft and single prop boats - (heard first hand accounts > from > >>> > pilots and captains on this) Not sure about the bike though... > >>> > -Joey > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Allen Thomas < > [email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> I have heard the torque affects the leaning of the bike so you need > to > >>> >> roll on when leaning one way and roll off the other way. But that is > 3rd > >>> >> party scuttlebutt since I've never rode one to know for sure. > >>> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>> >> > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > >>> >> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > >>> >> Sender: [email protected] > >>> >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:20:04 > >>> >> To: <[email protected]> > >>> >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Not exactly On Topic: Different > >>> >> Motorcycle > >>> >> Engine Configurations > >>> >> > >>> >> Doesn't that provide for better cooling of each cylinder than say a > HD > >>> >> design? > >>> >> Same idea as the Guzzi's or those wide flat BMW bikes eh? > >>> >> Wonder how they corner? > >>> >> Kyle - you ever been on one? > >>> >> -Joey > >>> >> > >>> >> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:54 AM, paul annen <[email protected]> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >>> how about indians only shaft drive bike, and it was a transverse > >>> >>> v-twin.... > >>> >>> i would kill to have one of these... > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > >>> >>> wrote: > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> All, > >>> >>>> We've been having some fun on another thread so lets make > it > >>> >>>> official - Wacky / weird / Different motorcycle engine > >>> >>>> configurations. > >>> >>>> Graham - can you tell us some more about the Suzuki RE5 you > >>> >>>> briefly owned? > >>> >>>> Allen - any more thoughts on the Turbine powered bikes? > >>> >>>> -Joey > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> -- > >>> >>>> -Joey Kelley > >>> >>>> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > >>> >>>> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! 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