I gotta side with Sean on this one...
I was looking up the directions to Graham's place from mine -
over 600 miles one way - and I realized that 10 hour + ride would be
more than triple the longest I've spent on a bike in one sitting. Even
my 375 mile in one day record last September - I was on and off the
bike - had to - my knees were complaining.
-Joey
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Sean <[email protected]> wrote:
> Lie,
>
> Have you ever done a long, multi-day tour before? It's not like
> driving a car - you are never relaxed and it much more physically
> taxing - I have done the straight through from San Jose to Seattle
> trip 10+ times in a car without a problem, I don't think I'd ever try
> that on a bike - even a big touring bike. I did 510 miles in one day
> on a 82 650 once and let me tell you 2.5 to 3 hours non-stop is hard.
> What I did when crossing unfamiliar places where I was unsure of the
> next gas station is added gas when I was over 100 miles - this was
> only in the wide open spaces where I was not sure I would find a gas
> station. These were just gas, facilities, fluids and go stops.
> You'll actually make better time and feel much better at then end of
> the day than trying to muscle out a 3 hour stretch each time.
>
> On Apr 28, 4:52 pm, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lie,
>> I daresay that the majority of us are nervous about putting a
>> flammable, potentially explosive liquid outside of a container built
>> into the bike.
>> I know that some people have added extra tanks, but used them
>> first - to avoid having the gas in the add-on system for any length of
>> time.
>> Personally - the idea bugs me.
>> -Joey
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Lie Njie
>>
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>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Maybe, but that sounds expensive.
>>
>> > What's surprising me in my research is that no one has developed a tank
>> > add-on that would sit where a tank bag would sit and effectively increase
>> > the size of the main tank. Seems that everyone with pics I've seen online
>> > attaches the external tanks to the sissybar, or just holds MSR-like
>> > canisters in their bags.
>>
>> > One general consensus seems to be: don't carry the extra gas in a saddlebag
>> > or above the exhaust.
>>
>> > Peace,
>> > +Lie
>>
>> > On 11-04-28 19:42, Joey Kelley wrote:
>>
>> >> Pardon my complete ignorance on the subject - but - couldn't one
>> >> simply have a larger fuel tank fabricated? Its not a minor project -
>> >> but - the custom bike builders get tanks made up all the time - I
>> >> assume anyone could (with enough money) get one made.
>> >> Thoughts?
>> >> -Joey
>>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, James O'Gorman<[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> My uncle who has done a few registered Iron Butt rides had a little fuel
>> >>> cell installed on his bike. The system is pretty simple, just a little
>> >>> fuel
>> >>> cell (2 gallons?) and it T's into the main fuel feed from the tank. When
>> >>> his
>> >>> main tank runs out and the engine starts to sputter, he reaches down and
>> >>> hits a petcock that opens the fuel cell.
>>
>> >>> Here's his honda - you can't see the cell in this pic, but it is under
>> >>> one of the bags on the backrest. It's a newer honda 1200 or something
>> >>> like
>> >>> that (sorry don't remember the specs). He bought it new and has already
>> >>> clocked over 70,000 miles :)
>>
>> >>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Lie Njie wrote:
>>
>> >>>> These look like they might work:
>>
>> >>>>http://www.tourtank.com/TourTanks.html
>>
>> >>>> Anyone ever used one?
>>
>> >>>> Lots of talk on the 'net about using MSR canisters for gas. Seems there
>> >>>> are those who think it's a great idea, and those who think it's a
>> >>>> terrible
>> >>>> idea.
>>
>> >>>> Peace,
>> >>>> +Lie
>>
>> >>>> On 11-04-28 19:02, Joey Kelley wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> You mean like this?
>>
>> >>>>>http://www.rei.com/webservices/rei/DisplayStyle/783963?source=gpla&cm...
>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM, [email protected]
>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>> check the camping stores and looking at the smaler aluminum bottles
>> >>>>>> with screw tops. There intended to be used for carring gas for small
>> >>>>>> stove.
>> >>>>>> I carried a 20 oz bottle in my trunk of the GL and in my backpack
>> >>>>>> when i had
>> >>>>>> the 250. Its sealed with an o-ring and i have never had any leaks. 20
>> >>>>>> ozs
>> >>>>>> might not get you far, but if you think of them as reserves not
>> >>>>>> primary...
>> >>>>>> And after 3 hours your going to want/need to get off the bike anyway.
>>
>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:10:01 pm
>> >>>>>> To: [email protected]
>> >>>>>> From: "Lie Njie"<[email protected]>
>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Options for carrying extra gas?
>>
>> >>>>>> It's more that it would be nice to take a side-trip, maybe through the
>> >>>>>> mountains
>> >>>>>> or back roads or similar, where I can't be guaranteed gas along the
>> >>>>>> way. So far
>> >>>>>> I haven't found anything that looks like it'll work great, closest is
>> >>>>>> maybe
>> >>>>>> getting some kind of saddlebag-area metal frame and putting a gas can
>> >>>>>> in that,
>> >>>>>> but then there's the issue of it sitting on top of the exhaust in the
>> >>>>>> direct
>> >>>>>> sun. Also thought about maybe a 2 gallon attached to the back of the
>> >>>>>> sissybar...
>>
>> >>>>>> Peace,
>> >>>>>> +Lie
>>
>> >>>>>> On 11-04-28 18:05, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>>
>> >>>>>>> Hmmmm...
>>
>> >>>>>>> You're going to have to stop to put the extra gas in it anyway, and
>> >>>>>>> 160
>> >>>>>>> miles is just a bit shy of three hours at a steady 60mph; might as
>> >>>>>>> well just
>> >>>>>>> buy it fresh and avoid the issue?
>>
>> >>>>>>> Only reason I've ever carried extra fuel on a trip with me is when I
>> >>>>>>> head
>> >>>>>>> north to Chicago, where gas is stupidly expensive. I fill two five
>> >>>>>>> gallon
>> >>>>>>> cans and put them in my car's trunk, then use the cheap-cheap SC gas
>> >>>>>>> in
>> >>>>>>> Chicago rather than filling up at
>>
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