Lie, I wish I still had a bike on the mainland - sounds like a great trip - I'd come join you. I follow what I call the over 40 years old rule - if you're over 40 you never pass a bathroom because you never know when you'll need one..... When you're on the road and you're within 50 miles of your comfort range on gas, stop and get some, even if it's 10 cents more per gallon it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a tow.
I think you'll also find that your daily range is most likely around 300 miles. If you get up and hit the road by around even 9am and get off the bike around 4pm - at least 4.5 to 5 hours of riding time you'll be closer to 300. If you're like me I like to get out early before the traffic starts and have breakfast about an hour or so into the trip, you'll also have another hour or 2 of riding each day. I typically got up, drank some water, eat a bar of some sort and then hit the road around 7am. It's really coolto leave a town in the am and watch the world wake up, especially when you're out in the middle of open country. Sean On Apr 28, 6:37 pm, Lie Njie <[email protected]> wrote: > I've done several 4-6 hour rides so far, with stops along the way, which is my > plan. I'm figuring about 200 mi / day on average, with some days longer and > some much shorter (or no riding at all). > > I *definitely* have felt the difference between the bike and a car -- I can do > 8-14 hours in a car no problem, but there's so much more mental work on the > bike > that I have to stop and clear my head every 100 miles or so. > > My fear with the gas is being stuck on a long stretch in Kansas or South > Dakota > where there's 100+ miles between towns. But I'm sure with planning, I'll be > ok. > > I've got two GPS's, one on my iPhone that has stored (and updated) maps, one > on > my Android which downloads real-time from Google, so I think I'm set there. I > occasionally turn on turn-by-turn directions and have that play on the > bluetooth > in my helmet. > > But yeah, I totally understand this isn't like any of my previous > cross-country > car trips. That's one of the main attractions of this kind of adventure. ;) > > Peace, > +Lie > > On 11-04-28 20:52, Joey Kelley wrote: > > > > > > > > > I gotta side with Sean on this one... > > I was looking up the directions to Graham's place from mine - > > over 600 miles one way - and I realized that 10 hour + ride would be > > more than triple the longest I've spent on a bike in one sitting. Even > > my 375 mile in one day record last September - I was on and off the > > bike - had to - my knees were complaining. > > -Joey > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Sean<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lie, > > >> Have you ever done a long, multi-day tour before? It's not like > >> driving a car - you are never relaxed and it much more physically > >> taxing - I have done the straight through from San Jose to Seattle > >> trip 10+ times in a car without a problem, I don't think I'd ever try > >> that on a bike - even a big touring bike. I did 510 miles in one day > >> on a 82 650 once and let me tell you 2.5 to 3 hours non-stop is hard. > >> What I did when crossing unfamiliar places where I was unsure of the > >> next gas station is added gas when I was over 100 miles - this was > >> only in the wide open spaces where I was not sure I would find a gas > >> station. These were just gas, facilities, fluids and go stops. > >> You'll actually make better time and feel much better at then end of > >> the day than trying to muscle out a 3 hour stretch each time. > > >> On Apr 28, 4:52 pm, Joey Kelley<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Lie, > >>> I daresay that the majority of us are nervous about putting a > >>> flammable, potentially explosive liquid outside of a container built > >>> into the bike. > >>> I know that some people have added extra tanks, but used them > >>> first - to avoid having the gas in the add-on system for any length of > >>> time. > >>> Personally - the idea bugs me. > >>> -Joey > > >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Lie Njie > > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Maybe, but that sounds expensive. > > >>>> What's surprising me in my research is that no one has developed a tank > >>>> add-on that would sit where a tank bag would sit and effectively increase > >>>> the size of the main tank. Seems that everyone with pics I've seen > >>>> online > >>>> attaches the external tanks to the sissybar, or just holds MSR-like > >>>> canisters in their bags. > > >>>> One general consensus seems to be: don't carry the extra gas in a > >>>> saddlebag > >>>> or above the exhaust. > > >>>> Peace, > >>>> +Lie > > >>>> On 11-04-28 19:42, Joey Kelley wrote: > > >>>>> Pardon my complete ignorance on the subject - but - couldn't one > >>>>> simply have a larger fuel tank fabricated? Its not a minor project - > >>>>> but - the custom bike builders get tanks made up all the time - I > >>>>> assume anyone could (with enough money) get one made. > >>>>> Thoughts? > >>>>> -Joey > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, James O'Gorman<[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> My uncle who has done a few registered Iron Butt rides had a little > >>>>>> fuel > >>>>>> cell installed on his bike. The system is pretty simple, just a little > >>>>>> fuel > >>>>>> cell (2 gallons?) and it T's into the main fuel feed from the tank. > >>>>>> When his > >>>>>> main tank runs out and the engine starts to sputter, he reaches down > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> hits a petcock that opens the fuel cell. > > >>>>>> Here's his honda - you can't see the cell in this pic, but it is under > >>>>>> one of the bags on the backrest. It's a newer honda 1200 or something > >>>>>> like > >>>>>> that (sorry don't remember the specs). He bought it new and has already > >>>>>> clocked over 70,000 miles :) > > >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Lie Njie wrote: > > >>>>>>> These look like they might work: > > >>>>>>>http://www.tourtank.com/TourTanks.html > > >>>>>>> Anyone ever used one? > > >>>>>>> Lots of talk on the 'net about using MSR canisters for gas. Seems > >>>>>>> there > >>>>>>> are those who think it's a great idea, and those who think it's a > >>>>>>> terrible > >>>>>>> idea. > > >>>>>>> Peace, > >>>>>>> +Lie > > >>>>>>> On 11-04-28 19:02, Joey Kelley wrote: > > >>>>>>>> You mean like this? > > >>>>>>>>http://www.rei.com/webservices/rei/DisplayStyle/783963?source=gpla&cm... > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM, [email protected] > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> check the camping stores and looking at the smaler aluminum bottles > >>>>>>>>> with screw tops. There intended to be used for carring gas for > >>>>>>>>> small stove. > >>>>>>>>> I carried a 20 oz bottle in my trunk of the GL and in my backpack > >>>>>>>>> when i had > >>>>>>>>> the 250. Its sealed with an o-ring and i have never had any leaks. > >>>>>>>>> 20 ozs > >>>>>>>>> might not get you far, but if you think of them as reserves not > >>>>>>>>> primary... > >>>>>>>>> And after 3 hours your going to want/need to get off the bike > >>>>>>>>> anyway. > > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:10:01 pm > >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] > >>>>>>>>> From: "Lie Njie"<[email protected]> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Options for carrying extra gas? > > >>>>>>>>> It's more that it would be nice to take a side-trip, maybe through > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> mountains > >>>>>>>>> or back roads or similar, where I can't be guaranteed gas along the > >>>>>>>>> way. So far > >>>>>>>>> I haven't found anything that looks like it'll work great, closest > >>>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> maybe > >>>>>>>>> getting some kind of saddlebag-area metal frame and putting a gas > >>>>>>>>> can > >>>>>>>>> in that, > >>>>>>>>> but then there's the issue of it sitting on top of the exhaust in > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> direct > >>>>>>>>> sun. Also thought about maybe a 2 gallon attached to the back of > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> sissybar... > > >>>>>>>>> Peace, > >>>>>>>>> +Lie > > >>>>>>>>> On 11-04-28 18:05, Kurt Nolte wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> Hmmmm... > > >>>>>>>>>> You're going to have to stop to put the extra gas in it anyway, and > >>>>>>>>>> 160 > >>>>>>>>>> miles is just a bit shy of three hours at a steady 60mph; might as > >>>>>>>>>> well just > >>>>>>>>>> buy it fresh and avoid the issue? > > >>>>>>>>>> Only reason I've ever carried extra fuel on a trip with me is when > >>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>> head > >>>>>>>>>> north to Chicago, where gas is stupidly expensive. I fill two five > >>>>>>>>>> gallon > >>>>>>>>>> cans and put them in my car's trunk, then use the cheap-cheap SC > >>>>>>>>>> gas > >>>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>> Chicago rather than filling up at > > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > >>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>> Groups > >>>>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>> [email protected]. > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>> [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> -Joey Kelley > >>> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > >>> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > >>> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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