I think you’re overly concerned. I grew up in South Dakota. Wiki reports it
is 380 miles wide East to West, and 210 miles North to South. That would be
only 4 towns E/W and 2 towns N/S across the whole state? I don’t think so!
You would have to drive back roads and deliberately avoid towns to not find one
within 100 miles.
Same for Kansas: 417 x 211 miles.
Maybe Wyoming or Montana off the main roads would require a little caution.
Just keep it topped off and go!!!!!!!!!!!
And don’t count on a friendly passerby letting you siphon some of his fuel:
RE: why won't gas siphon work?? from
http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/cars/msg1212545631365.html?10
a.. Posted by John_G (My Page) on
Thu, Dec 1, 05 at 15:59
Most gas tanks on todays cars cannot be siphoned because of the anti roll
over valve. This valve is designed to prevent fuel from leaking out of the tank
if the vehicle is overturned in an accident. It also does an excellent job of
preventing a hose from being slid down the filler neck and into the fuel.
From: Lie Njie
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Options for carrying extra gas?
I've done several 4-6 hour rides so far, with stops along the way, which is my
plan. I'm figuring about 200 mi / day on average, with some days longer and
some much shorter (or no riding at all).
I *definitely* have felt the difference between the bike and a car -- I can do
8-14 hours in a car no problem, but there's so much more mental work on the
bike
that I have to stop and clear my head every 100 miles or so.
My fear with the gas is being stuck on a long stretch in Kansas or South Dakota
where there's 100+ miles between towns. But I'm sure with planning, I'll be ok.
I've got two GPS's, one on my iPhone that has stored (and updated) maps, one on
my Android which downloads real-time from Google, so I think I'm set there. I
occasionally turn on turn-by-turn directions and have that play on the
bluetooth
in my helmet.
But yeah, I totally understand this isn't like any of my previous cross-country
car trips. That's one of the main attractions of this kind of adventure. ;)
Peace,
+Lie
On 11-04-28 20:52, Joey Kelley wrote:
> I gotta side with Sean on this one...
> I was looking up the directions to Graham's place from mine -
> over 600 miles one way - and I realized that 10 hour + ride would be
> more than triple the longest I've spent on a bike in one sitting. Even
> my 375 mile in one day record last September - I was on and off the
> bike - had to - my knees were complaining.
> -Joey
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Sean<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Lie,
>>
>> Have you ever done a long, multi-day tour before? It's not like
>> driving a car - you are never relaxed and it much more physically
>> taxing - I have done the straight through from San Jose to Seattle
>> trip 10+ times in a car without a problem, I don't think I'd ever try
>> that on a bike - even a big touring bike. I did 510 miles in one day
>> on a 82 650 once and let me tell you 2.5 to 3 hours non-stop is hard.
>> What I did when crossing unfamiliar places where I was unsure of the
>> next gas station is added gas when I was over 100 miles - this was
>> only in the wide open spaces where I was not sure I would find a gas
>> station. These were just gas, facilities, fluids and go stops.
>> You'll actually make better time and feel much better at then end of
>> the day than trying to muscle out a 3 hour stretch each time.
>>
>> On Apr 28, 4:52 pm, Joey Kelley<[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Lie,
>>> I daresay that the majority of us are nervous about putting a
>>> flammable, potentially explosive liquid outside of a container built
>>> into the bike.
>>> I know that some people have added extra tanks, but used them
>>> first - to avoid having the gas in the add-on system for any length of
>>> time.
>>> Personally - the idea bugs me.
>>> -Joey
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Lie Njie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Maybe, but that sounds expensive.
>>>
>>>> What's surprising me in my research is that no one has developed a tank
>>>> add-on that would sit where a tank bag would sit and effectively increase
>>>> the size of the main tank. Seems that everyone with pics I've seen online
>>>> attaches the external tanks to the sissybar, or just holds MSR-like
>>>> canisters in their bags.
>>>
>>>> One general consensus seems to be: don't carry the extra gas in a saddlebag
>>>> or above the exhaust.
>>>
>>>> Peace,
>>>> +Lie
>>>
>>>> On 11-04-28 19:42, Joey Kelley wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Pardon my complete ignorance on the subject - but - couldn't one
>>>>> simply have a larger fuel tank fabricated? Its not a minor project -
>>>>> but - the custom bike builders get tanks made up all the time - I
>>>>> assume anyone could (with enough money) get one made.
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> -Joey
>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, James O'Gorman<[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> My uncle who has done a few registered Iron Butt rides had a little fuel
>>>>>> cell installed on his bike. The system is pretty simple, just a little
>>>>>> fuel
>>>>>> cell (2 gallons?) and it T's into the main fuel feed from the tank. When
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> main tank runs out and the engine starts to sputter, he reaches down and
>>>>>> hits a petcock that opens the fuel cell.
>>>
>>>>>> Here's his honda - you can't see the cell in this pic, but it is under
>>>>>> one of the bags on the backrest. It's a newer honda 1200 or something
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> that (sorry don't remember the specs). He bought it new and has already
>>>>>> clocked over 70,000 miles :)
>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Lie Njie wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> These look like they might work:
>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.tourtank.com/TourTanks.html
>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone ever used one?
>>>
>>>>>>> Lots of talk on the 'net about using MSR canisters for gas. Seems there
>>>>>>> are those who think it's a great idea, and those who think it's a
>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>>> idea.
>>>
>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>> +Lie
>>>
>>>>>>> On 11-04-28 19:02, Joey Kelley wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> You mean like this?
>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.rei.com/webservices/rei/DisplayStyle/783963?source=gpla&cm...
>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> check the camping stores and looking at the smaler aluminum bottles
>>>>>>>>> with screw tops. There intended to be used for carring gas for small
>>>>>>>>> stove.
>>>>>>>>> I carried a 20 oz bottle in my trunk of the GL and in my backpack
>>>>>>>>> when i had
>>>>>>>>> the 250. Its sealed with an o-ring and i have never had any leaks. 20
>>>>>>>>> ozs
>>>>>>>>> might not get you far, but if you think of them as reserves not
>>>>>>>>> primary...
>>>>>>>>> And after 3 hours your going to want/need to get off the bike anyway.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:10:01 pm
>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>> From: "Lie Njie"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Options for carrying extra gas?
>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's more that it would be nice to take a side-trip, maybe through the
>>>>>>>>> mountains
>>>>>>>>> or back roads or similar, where I can't be guaranteed gas along the
>>>>>>>>> way. So far
>>>>>>>>> I haven't found anything that looks like it'll work great, closest is
>>>>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>>>>> getting some kind of saddlebag-area metal frame and putting a gas can
>>>>>>>>> in that,
>>>>>>>>> but then there's the issue of it sitting on top of the exhaust in the
>>>>>>>>> direct
>>>>>>>>> sun. Also thought about maybe a 2 gallon attached to the back of the
>>>>>>>>> sissybar...
>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>>>> +Lie
>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 11-04-28 18:05, Kurt Nolte wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmmm...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're going to have to stop to put the extra gas in it anyway, and
>>>>>>>>>> 160
>>>>>>>>>> miles is just a bit shy of three hours at a steady 60mph; might as
>>>>>>>>>> well just
>>>>>>>>>> buy it fresh and avoid the issue?
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only reason I've ever carried extra fuel on a trip with me is when I
>>>>>>>>>> head
>>>>>>>>>> north to Chicago, where gas is stupidly expensive. I fill two five
>>>>>>>>>> gallon
>>>>>>>>>> cans and put them in my car's trunk, then use the cheap-cheap SC gas
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> Chicago rather than filling up at
>>>
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