I've done several 4-6 hour rides so far, with stops along the way, which is my
plan. I'm figuring about 200 mi / day on average, with some days longer and
some much shorter (or no riding at all).
I *definitely* have felt the difference between the bike and a car -- I can do
8-14 hours in a car no problem, but there's so much more mental work on the bike
that I have to stop and clear my head every 100 miles or so.
My fear with the gas is being stuck on a long stretch in Kansas or South Dakota
where there's 100+ miles between towns. But I'm sure with planning, I'll be ok.
I've got two GPS's, one on my iPhone that has stored (and updated) maps, one on
my Android which downloads real-time from Google, so I think I'm set there. I
occasionally turn on turn-by-turn directions and have that play on the bluetooth
in my helmet.
But yeah, I totally understand this isn't like any of my previous cross-country
car trips. That's one of the main attractions of this kind of adventure. ;)
Peace,
+Lie
On 11-04-28 20:52, Joey Kelley wrote:
I gotta side with Sean on this one...
I was looking up the directions to Graham's place from mine -
over 600 miles one way - and I realized that 10 hour + ride would be
more than triple the longest I've spent on a bike in one sitting. Even
my 375 mile in one day record last September - I was on and off the
bike - had to - my knees were complaining.
-Joey
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Sean<[email protected]> wrote:
Lie,
Have you ever done a long, multi-day tour before? It's not like
driving a car - you are never relaxed and it much more physically
taxing - I have done the straight through from San Jose to Seattle
trip 10+ times in a car without a problem, I don't think I'd ever try
that on a bike - even a big touring bike. I did 510 miles in one day
on a 82 650 once and let me tell you 2.5 to 3 hours non-stop is hard.
What I did when crossing unfamiliar places where I was unsure of the
next gas station is added gas when I was over 100 miles - this was
only in the wide open spaces where I was not sure I would find a gas
station. These were just gas, facilities, fluids and go stops.
You'll actually make better time and feel much better at then end of
the day than trying to muscle out a 3 hour stretch each time.
On Apr 28, 4:52 pm, Joey Kelley<[email protected]> wrote:
Lie,
I daresay that the majority of us are nervous about putting a
flammable, potentially explosive liquid outside of a container built
into the bike.
I know that some people have added extra tanks, but used them
first - to avoid having the gas in the add-on system for any length of
time.
Personally - the idea bugs me.
-Joey
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Lie Njie
<[email protected]> wrote:
Maybe, but that sounds expensive.
What's surprising me in my research is that no one has developed a tank
add-on that would sit where a tank bag would sit and effectively increase
the size of the main tank. Seems that everyone with pics I've seen online
attaches the external tanks to the sissybar, or just holds MSR-like
canisters in their bags.
One general consensus seems to be: don't carry the extra gas in a saddlebag
or above the exhaust.
Peace,
+Lie
On 11-04-28 19:42, Joey Kelley wrote:
Pardon my complete ignorance on the subject - but - couldn't one
simply have a larger fuel tank fabricated? Its not a minor project -
but - the custom bike builders get tanks made up all the time - I
assume anyone could (with enough money) get one made.
Thoughts?
-Joey
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, James O'Gorman<[email protected]>
wrote:
My uncle who has done a few registered Iron Butt rides had a little fuel
cell installed on his bike. The system is pretty simple, just a little fuel
cell (2 gallons?) and it T's into the main fuel feed from the tank. When his
main tank runs out and the engine starts to sputter, he reaches down and
hits a petcock that opens the fuel cell.
Here's his honda - you can't see the cell in this pic, but it is under
one of the bags on the backrest. It's a newer honda 1200 or something like
that (sorry don't remember the specs). He bought it new and has already
clocked over 70,000 miles :)
On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Lie Njie wrote:
These look like they might work:
http://www.tourtank.com/TourTanks.html
Anyone ever used one?
Lots of talk on the 'net about using MSR canisters for gas. Seems there
are those who think it's a great idea, and those who think it's a terrible
idea.
Peace,
+Lie
On 11-04-28 19:02, Joey Kelley wrote:
You mean like this?
http://www.rei.com/webservices/rei/DisplayStyle/783963?source=gpla&cm...
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
check the camping stores and looking at the smaler aluminum bottles
with screw tops. There intended to be used for carring gas for small stove.
I carried a 20 oz bottle in my trunk of the GL and in my backpack when i had
the 250. Its sealed with an o-ring and i have never had any leaks. 20 ozs
might not get you far, but if you think of them as reserves not primary...
And after 3 hours your going to want/need to get off the bike anyway.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:10:01 pm
To: [email protected]
From: "Lie Njie"<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Options for carrying extra gas?
It's more that it would be nice to take a side-trip, maybe through the
mountains
or back roads or similar, where I can't be guaranteed gas along the
way. So far
I haven't found anything that looks like it'll work great, closest is
maybe
getting some kind of saddlebag-area metal frame and putting a gas can
in that,
but then there's the issue of it sitting on top of the exhaust in the
direct
sun. Also thought about maybe a 2 gallon attached to the back of the
sissybar...
Peace,
+Lie
On 11-04-28 18:05, Kurt Nolte wrote:
Hmmmm...
You're going to have to stop to put the extra gas in it anyway, and
160
miles is just a bit shy of three hours at a steady 60mph; might as
well just
buy it fresh and avoid the issue?
Only reason I've ever carried extra fuel on a trip with me is when I
head
north to Chicago, where gas is stupidly expensive. I fill two five
gallon
cans and put them in my car's trunk, then use the cheap-cheap SC gas
in
Chicago rather than filling up at
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