totaly agree with sean... leave early and take an hour for breakfast an hout or 2 in... then 2-3 hours later you take a 2 hour lunch, then push till you have to, make camp for the night and get early dinner... repeat
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Sean <[email protected]> wrote: > Lie, > > I wish I still had a bike on the mainland - sounds like a great trip - > I'd come join you. I follow what I call the over 40 years old rule - > if you're over 40 you never pass a bathroom because you never know > when you'll need one..... When you're on the road and you're within > 50 miles of your comfort range on gas, stop and get some, even if it's > 10 cents more per gallon it's a hell of a lot cheaper than a tow. > > I think you'll also find that your daily range is most likely around > 300 miles. If you get up and hit the road by around even 9am and get > off the bike around 4pm - at least 4.5 to 5 hours of riding time > you'll be closer to 300. If you're like me I like to get out early > before the traffic starts and have breakfast about an hour or so into > the trip, you'll also have another hour or 2 of riding each day. I > typically got up, drank some water, eat a bar of some sort and then > hit the road around 7am. It's really coolto leave a town in the am > and watch the world wake up, especially when you're out in the middle > of open country. > > Sean > > On Apr 28, 6:37 pm, Lie Njie <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I've done several 4-6 hour rides so far, with stops along the way, which > is my > > plan. I'm figuring about 200 mi / day on average, with some days longer > and > > some much shorter (or no riding at all). > > > > I *definitely* have felt the difference between the bike and a car -- I > can do > > 8-14 hours in a car no problem, but there's so much more mental work on > the bike > > that I have to stop and clear my head every 100 miles or so. > > > > My fear with the gas is being stuck on a long stretch in Kansas or South > Dakota > > where there's 100+ miles between towns. But I'm sure with planning, I'll > be ok. > > > > I've got two GPS's, one on my iPhone that has stored (and updated) maps, > one on > > my Android which downloads real-time from Google, so I think I'm set > there. I > > occasionally turn on turn-by-turn directions and have that play on the > bluetooth > > in my helmet. > > > > But yeah, I totally understand this isn't like any of my previous > cross-country > > car trips. That's one of the main attractions of this kind of adventure. > ;) > > > > Peace, > > +Lie > > > > On 11-04-28 20:52, Joey Kelley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I gotta side with Sean on this one... > > > I was looking up the directions to Graham's place from mine - > > > over 600 miles one way - and I realized that 10 hour + ride would be > > > more than triple the longest I've spent on a bike in one sitting. Even > > > my 375 mile in one day record last September - I was on and off the > > > bike - had to - my knees were complaining. > > > -Joey > > > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Sean<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Lie, > > > > >> Have you ever done a long, multi-day tour before? It's not like > > >> driving a car - you are never relaxed and it much more physically > > >> taxing - I have done the straight through from San Jose to Seattle > > >> trip 10+ times in a car without a problem, I don't think I'd ever try > > >> that on a bike - even a big touring bike. I did 510 miles in one day > > >> on a 82 650 once and let me tell you 2.5 to 3 hours non-stop is hard. > > >> What I did when crossing unfamiliar places where I was unsure of the > > >> next gas station is added gas when I was over 100 miles - this was > > >> only in the wide open spaces where I was not sure I would find a gas > > >> station. These were just gas, facilities, fluids and go stops. > > >> You'll actually make better time and feel much better at then end of > > >> the day than trying to muscle out a 3 hour stretch each time. > > > > >> On Apr 28, 4:52 pm, Joey Kelley<[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> Lie, > > >>> I daresay that the majority of us are nervous about putting > a > > >>> flammable, potentially explosive liquid outside of a container built > > >>> into the bike. > > >>> I know that some people have added extra tanks, but used > them > > >>> first - to avoid having the gas in the add-on system for any length > of > > >>> time. > > >>> Personally - the idea bugs me. > > >>> -Joey > > > > >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Lie Njie > > > > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Maybe, but that sounds expensive. > > > > >>>> What's surprising me in my research is that no one has developed a > tank > > >>>> add-on that would sit where a tank bag would sit and effectively > increase > > >>>> the size of the main tank. Seems that everyone with pics I've seen > online > > >>>> attaches the external tanks to the sissybar, or just holds MSR-like > > >>>> canisters in their bags. > > > > >>>> One general consensus seems to be: don't carry the extra gas in a > saddlebag > > >>>> or above the exhaust. > > > > >>>> Peace, > > >>>> +Lie > > > > >>>> On 11-04-28 19:42, Joey Kelley wrote: > > > > >>>>> Pardon my complete ignorance on the subject - but - couldn't one > > >>>>> simply have a larger fuel tank fabricated? Its not a minor project > - > > >>>>> but - the custom bike builders get tanks made up all the time - I > > >>>>> assume anyone could (with enough money) get one made. > > >>>>> Thoughts? > > >>>>> -Joey > > > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:37 PM, James O'Gorman< > [email protected]> > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> My uncle who has done a few registered Iron Butt rides had a > little fuel > > >>>>>> cell installed on his bike. The system is pretty simple, just a > little fuel > > >>>>>> cell (2 gallons?) and it T's into the main fuel feed from the > tank. When his > > >>>>>> main tank runs out and the engine starts to sputter, he reaches > down and > > >>>>>> hits a petcock that opens the fuel cell. > > > > >>>>>> Here's his honda - you can't see the cell in this pic, but it is > under > > >>>>>> one of the bags on the backrest. It's a newer honda 1200 or > something like > > >>>>>> that (sorry don't remember the specs). He bought it new and has > already > > >>>>>> clocked over 70,000 miles :) > > > > >>>>>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 9:09 PM, Lie Njie wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> These look like they might work: > > > > >>>>>>>http://www.tourtank.com/TourTanks.html > > > > >>>>>>> Anyone ever used one? > > > > >>>>>>> Lots of talk on the 'net about using MSR canisters for gas. > Seems there > > >>>>>>> are those who think it's a great idea, and those who think it's a > terrible > > >>>>>>> idea. > > > > >>>>>>> Peace, > > >>>>>>> +Lie > > > > >>>>>>> On 11-04-28 19:02, Joey Kelley wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> You mean like this? > > > > >>>>>>>> > http://www.rei.com/webservices/rei/DisplayStyle/783963?source=gpla&cm... > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:57 PM, [email protected] > > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> check the camping stores and looking at the smaler aluminum > bottles > > >>>>>>>>> with screw tops. There intended to be used for carring gas for > small stove. > > >>>>>>>>> I carried a 20 oz bottle in my trunk of the GL and in my > backpack when i had > > >>>>>>>>> the 250. Its sealed with an o-ring and i have never had any > leaks. 20 ozs > > >>>>>>>>> might not get you far, but if you think of them as reserves not > primary... > > >>>>>>>>> And after 3 hours your going to want/need to get off the bike > anyway. > > > > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, April 28, 2011 9:10:01 pm > > >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>> From: "Lie Njie"<[email protected]> > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Options for carrying extra gas? > > > > >>>>>>>>> It's more that it would be nice to take a side-trip, maybe > through the > > >>>>>>>>> mountains > > >>>>>>>>> or back roads or similar, where I can't be guaranteed gas along > the > > >>>>>>>>> way. So far > > >>>>>>>>> I haven't found anything that looks like it'll work great, > closest is > > >>>>>>>>> maybe > > >>>>>>>>> getting some kind of saddlebag-area metal frame and putting a > gas can > > >>>>>>>>> in that, > > >>>>>>>>> but then there's the issue of it sitting on top of the exhaust > in the > > >>>>>>>>> direct > > >>>>>>>>> sun. Also thought about maybe a 2 gallon attached to the back > of the > > >>>>>>>>> sissybar... > > > > >>>>>>>>> Peace, > > >>>>>>>>> +Lie > > > > >>>>>>>>> On 11-04-28 18:05, Kurt Nolte wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Hmmmm... > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You're going to have to stop to put the extra gas in it > anyway, and > > >>>>>>>>>> 160 > > >>>>>>>>>> miles is just a bit shy of three hours at a steady 60mph; > might as > > >>>>>>>>>> well just > > >>>>>>>>>> buy it fresh and avoid the issue? > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Only reason I've ever carried extra fuel on a trip with me is > when I > > >>>>>>>>>> head > > >>>>>>>>>> north to Chicago, where gas is stupidly expensive. I fill two > five > > >>>>>>>>>> gallon > > >>>>>>>>>> cans and put them in my car's trunk, then use the cheap-cheap > SC gas > > >>>>>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>>> Chicago rather than filling up at > > > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > >>>>>>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > >>>>>>> Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >>>>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>> [email protected]. > > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >>> -- > > >>> -Joey Kelley > > >>> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > > >>> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > > >>> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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