So why can't diesels throw a giant vacuum cleaner bag over the end of their
exhaust to capture the larger particulates and empty it every night?


-Kyle


On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>wrote:

> That's great, Allen, but can you point to similar studies on the nanofine
> and ultrafine particulates emitted unregulated by gasoline engines?
>
> I haven't found any; until the effects of those more persistent
> particulates are studied in a health context, pinning the blame solely on
> one or the other is pointless fuel partisanship.
>
> Medical studies unrelated to exhaust emissions have shown finer
> particulates to be both more persistent in tissues and more carcinogenic
> once there. Additionally they are less likely to be filtered out by the
> nasal cavity and mucus membranes.
>
> Having established that, I feel that an intensive study, like those done on
> diesel engines, is warranted.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Oct 6, 2011 12:56 PM, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Kurt, that soot is more dangerous than you might think. I always thought it
> was mostly carbon.
>
>
> The Clean Air Task Force (CATF) combined NATA data with the diesel cancer
> risk factor developed by the California Air Resources Board and found it to
> be three times greater than the risks of all air toxics tracked by EPA
> combined.
>
> The Boston-based nonprofit also found that the average lifetime cancer risk
> from diesel exhaust to be 159 times greater than EPA's acceptable one cancer
> in a million standard for air toxics.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Allen: the good thing about that particular pollution is that it quickly
>> settles out of the air....
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >> On Oct 6, 2011 10:24 AM, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Personally I agr...
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