Yep, just the 4 fuses on front and the one big fuse on the side. Careful if you're using the Clymer manual as your wiring diagram. It's a little confused about the wire colors in the starter button, the gear selector switch, and a couple other places.
-Kyle On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:03 PM, marcel cerdan <[email protected]>wrote: > So to the multiple questions... it doesn't say 12v on the fuse, but > the bike was working with it, and it looks original (based on > documentations), holding on each sides with the screws... > > For the ground wire, point taken. I'll check it out next. A side wire > also makes the ground (a battery maintenance connector was added), but > I'll check both saturday morning. > > Just one more thing to triple check : there are 4 fuses on the front, > one flat fuse next to the battery, and that's it.... right ?! > > Also, does anyone knows by heart what connectors from within the light > case I should reconnect to have some sign of life if I have the > ignition on and put my finger on the right issue ?! (like putting a > turning signal on the front and making sure it is connected in the > light... > > I'll look through the electrical chart to find where the 12v arrives > in the fuse panel... at least if I have power coming in, I know the > wiring between the battery and the panel is correct. Then I'll go back > to inspecting each plug in the back of the panel... > > ... long week-end ahead ! > > On Oct 14, 10:33 am, James O'Gorman <[email protected]> wrote: > > You would still see 12V at the fuse without a good ground connection. > > You're checking the voltage between the source and ground, bypassing any > downstream parts of the circuit. > > > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 06:52 AM, marcel cerdan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hummm ... I quickly checked last night but if I had a ground cable > > > issue I would not see my 12.6v on the two sides of the main fuse by > > > the battery when I turn the key on... Right ?! (it goes back to 0 when > > > ignition is off) > > > > > (scratch scratch the head.. ) > > > > > On Oct 14, 1:05 am, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Did you remove clean and inspect your ground cables? > > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: marcel cerdan <[email protected]> > > > > >> Sender: [email protected] > > >> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:44:13 > > >> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > > >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Day 2 : Power failure... help > > > > >> bouuuhhhhaaaaaaaaa !!!! > > > > >> Rushed home from work, pulled out the tools, got cranking, fighting > > >> time (light going out and rain menacing)... > > > > >> First checked battery... 12.56v... good... Double Checked main fuse... > > >> ok... made a quick test : turning the ignition key does cut the > > >> contact at the main fuse level, so the ignition key works... > > >> Took out the windshield, empty wires from light box, took it out, > > >> unhook horn, unhook fuse holder... checked the back, all seems ok... > > >> pushed all cables, wiggled, giggled... removed all fuses for a double > > >> check... > > >> NOTHING !!! > > >> (yes, I had reconnected all the wired after removing the casing to > > >> make sure at least something would come on...) > > > > >> Put all back in place, took our saddle, follow up the wiring there > > >> (all good, no tape or anything like that), twisted the gas tank to > > >> check the wires under there....... > > > > >> By the time all is back in place, it is night... and IT IS STILL DEAD > > >> IN THE WATER ! > > > > >> Ok, I didn't remove all the connectors behind the fuse box... maybe I > > >> should have... but I pushed hard on all the cables and nothing came > > >> up... > > > > >> BBBBoouuuaaaahhhhh !!!! > > > > >> Today's conclusions : battery is good, ignition does open power at the > > >> main fuse level... > > > > >> Open to suggestions (Yes, I'll rip everything off that damn fuse box > > >> next time...)... > > > > >> On Oct 13, 7:40 am, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> I always start with the battery. It'd suck to circuit test the whole > bike > > >>> only to find a dead battery. From there I'd move up to the ignition > switch > > >>> and fuseblock. > > > > >>> -Kyle > > >>> On Oct 12, 2011 8:04 PM, "marcel cerdan" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >>>> Well I did the jiggle tonight, under freaking NJ rain, but I guess I > > >>>> didn't hit the right spot. 10mn only and I gave up, put the cover > back > > >>>> on, and went to get dry... > > > > >>>> Also looked at the key cylinder and it seems to be all there. > > > > >>>> Next attempt friday afternoon, with a toolbox, more time, and a wish > > >>>> to succeed... Received the Clymer book meanwhile, which showed be > how > > >>>> the support of the fusebox is holding. Any other leads I should look > > >>>> into while I'm at it on Friday ?! :-) > > > > >>>> Week end is supposed to be nice and damn it, this bike is going to > be > > >>>> revived ! > > > > >>>> On Oct 11, 4:31 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> Yep, it's the one under the headlight. Just to jiggle the wires and > test > > >>>> for > > >>>>> loose connection you don't have to take anything off. To take the > > >>>> fuseblock > > >>>>> off for cleaning you have to strip it down a bit. This is a common > enough > > >>>>> problem with the 650s. The connectors aren't very tight and cause > arcing > > >>>> and > > >>>>> may even melt the plastic a bit. When you take it a part > disassemble the > > >>>>> female ends of the to connectors so you can bend the contacts out a > bit, > > >>>>> this way when it goes back together it's a tighter connection. I've > got > > >>>> pics > > >>>>> of my teardown online athttp://www.kylemunz.com/nighthawk/?p=166 > > > > >>>>> -Kyle > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, marcel cerdan < > [email protected] > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Ok back of the fuse box I'll check ... Now we re talking about the > > >>>>>> front fuse box under the headlight behind the horns, not the 30a > fuse > > >>>>>> holder by the battery, right ? (oh the newbee feeling suddenly > > >>>>>> invading my head...) > > > > >>>>>> Now to have easy access there to check it all, it's headlight off > it's > > >>>>>> mount and horns down, right ??? > > > > >>>>>> Also found out while checking wiring inside the headlight that the > > >>>>>> plastic framing of it had cracks. Any clue to find a new one ? > (the > > >>>>>> small windshield was mounted touching the headlight... I guess it > put > > >>>>>> on pressure with time) > > > > >>>>>> Its a 650sc 1985... > > > > >>>>>> Only rode it for a day and already miss the smooth engine ... :-) > > > > >>>>>> On Oct 10, 10:03 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > >>>>>>> Kyle is correct. This is an ignition switch problem at the back > of > > >>>> the > > >>>>>> fuse > > >>>>>>> box. I have an 84 650 and this has happened to me twice. I would > be > > >>>>>> riding > > >>>>>>> along and the bike would just shut off, nothing worked. Some wire > > >>>>>> wiggling > > >>>>>>> at the fuse box and it would come back to life. This happened 5-6 > > >>>> times > > >>>>>> one > > >>>>>>> day, not fun. A thorough cleaning of the 2 ignition plug > connections > > >>>> at > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>> fuse box and dielectric grease solved the problem. > > > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 6:55 PM, marcel cerdan < > [email protected] > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> OK, > > > > >>>>>>>> Bought a very nice 1985 Nighthawk... yesterday. I drove 70 miles > > >>>> back > > >>>>>>>> without any issues, runs like a kitten, battery remains charged > > >>>> (known > > >>>>>>>> issue...) > > > > >>>>>>>> Happy as a king > > > > >>>>>>>> Used it yesterday afternoon to do a little tour, all is well... > > > > >>>>>>>> Today, I want to use it... all light come on, starter starts, > then > > >>>> all > > >>>>>>>> goes off... Impossible to get anything on anymore.. Web browsing > > >>>>>>>> (manuals are in the mail :-) ) found location of the 4 15 amps, > all > > >>>>>>>> good. Main 30a fuse seems ok... > > > > >>>>>>>> What am I missing ?? I try the key juggle, verified all > > >>>> connections, > > >>>>>>>> got 12.6v on the battery... there must be another fuse somewhere > ! > > > > >>>>>>>> Help !!!!!! > > > > >>>>>>>> Stef from NJ ! > > > > >>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > > >>>>>> Groups > > >>>>>>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>> . > > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>>>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >>>> Groups > > >>>>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected] > > >>>> . > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>>>> [email protected]. > > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >>>> -- > > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >>>> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >>>> [email protected]. > > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > > >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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