At this point I’m looking for someone who has an EN500 or 454LTD and has maybe experienced similar issue
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 5:23 PM Darin Hatton <[email protected]> wrote: > Well graham, sounds to me like you did the right thing, start with simple > solutions first. When I reply to a post like yours it is to try to get > someone to look at things from a different angle, not necessarily telling > you an answer to your question or problem. Seems to me when I have an > issue I have tunnel vision and I am on one track trying to fix something > when the problem comes from somewhere different. Asking questions and > getting someone else's view is imperative when dealing with the problems we > have because certain symptoms can have MANY causes and create same > symptoms. Take everyones advice on forum as just that. We are not there > with bike, but rely on what you type > To diagnose . Would love to help > Atleast you got to go out even though it was on a yamaha : ) . Got my > 700s out for about an hour today. Yipee!!! > If you are not a " schooled machanic, which I am not, I'm a welder, get > plenty of opinions on your issues/problems and make your own decisions. > That's what I do ... Happy holidays > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 5:00 PM Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I did some checking on the tube(s) coming from the valve cover after >> detaching them and noticing they weren’t letting vapor out from the head, >> they were sucking air in. >> There are two valves in the top of the valve cover, on either side. They >> suck air in from the airbox to burn off unburned fuel. So they aren’t the >> issue. That leaves the vapor box on top of the crankcase, harder to get to >> so I didn’t try today. Went for a ride on a VMAX instead, Graham >> >> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 12:40 PM Darin Hatton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> This is the one on my 83 silverwing. Tube going down is drain. Make sure >>> it isn't full. The other goes to air box as you mentioned. On another note. >>> If you are having moisture in oil it will turn to condensation, even >>> residual coolant will. This will collect on a paper air filter and block it >>> to the point where bike won't run. So, don't know if you are running an oil >>> soaked or paper filter , but if it's paper be sure to change after you get >>> the problem resolved, >>> Regards Darin >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 12:31 PM Darin Hatton <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The tube you are referring to is indeed there to take blow by from >>>> crankcase and burn it . Takes it from crankcase to breather. Should be a t >>>> in it somewhere so the condensed vapor can be collected and drained drain. >>>> On my bikes this drain tube is close to carb overflow tubes under seat >>>> close to the ground >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 12:00 PM Graham Rogers < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now there’s some good thoughts Darin. I’ll check the color of the >>>>> spark plugs. There’s some whitish smoke when I run it in the garage with >>>>> doors open but I put that down to condensation, etc. my other bikes do the >>>>> same in similar circumstances at least initially. I can’t tell if it’s >>>>> smoking while I am riding it. I can’t find anyone to ride behind me in 38 >>>>> degree weather. Twice I have added a little barleaks to the radiator >>>>> hoping >>>>> it will seal a leak. I think I will also try adding some diesel or cleaner >>>>> of some sort to the oil and run it, just in case it is dirt holed up in >>>>> the >>>>> engine. The water pump I can check, that’s easily accessible. Good >>>>> thoughts. On this bike there is a cannister of some sort that sits on the >>>>> crankcase just to the back of the carbs. If that allows fumes or whatever >>>>> out of the crankcase (there is a tube coming out of it , not sure where it >>>>> goes), same with breather tube from valve cover to air box. If either of >>>>> those are blocked it may be a cause. Graham >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 11:15 AM Darin Hatton <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> HI graham, merry Christmas. My first thought on your oil >>>>>> contamination would be head gasket as well, although if you have a breach >>>>>> between coolant and oil passages on head gasket you probably not losee >>>>>> any >>>>>> compression, just get coolant in oil since the coolant is under more >>>>>> pressure. >>>>>> Since you didn't mention any white smoke or blue smoke while >>>>>> running bike, both of which indicate a breach into the combustion >>>>>> chamber, >>>>>> I think the information you get will be related to ring and valve wear. . >>>>>> Can you pressurize cooling system instead. If your crankcase was >>>>>> empty, and had a leak between coolant and oil passages you would get >>>>>> collateral in crankcase. >>>>>> Possibly water pump seal? >>>>>> Just my 2 cents. Darin >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 10:54 AM kiwinPA <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> EN500 Update, bike runs excellent but I have another issue. It seems >>>>>>> moisture is getting in the oil. I have run the bike twice now for 10 >>>>>>> miles >>>>>>> on the road and both times there seems to be a slight amount of h2o in >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> oil. The drained oil looks almost just dirty with traces of a milky >>>>>>> looking >>>>>>> mix. I have changed the oil 4 times with the same result. Running the >>>>>>> bike >>>>>>> on the stand, rather than on the road (when it was too cold) did not >>>>>>> produce the cloudy oil as seen through the sight glass, perhaps because >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> no load or whatever. >>>>>>> My question is besides a leak from the cooling system, is there any >>>>>>> other way moisture could be getting into the oil. It’s such a small >>>>>>> amount >>>>>>> and there doesn’t seem to be any drop in the radiator fluid level. I’ll >>>>>>> next give it a compression test to check for a broken head gasket. I >>>>>>> want >>>>>>> to know however if there is any other way moisture could be getting into >>>>>>> the engine, people?? 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