>Back around December people got all excited talking about a new >release, rolling in patches that are floating around, and taking >care of issues in the TODO file, but I have not seen >any< >progress on that front. Until people start to do some real work, >moving the repository so that it can just continue to be >neglected elsewhere seems silly to me.
Listen buddy, I'm going to say it again, SLOWLY this time. I tried. The basic problem was simple: Doug and I couldn't get me working repository access. There was simply some strangeness between our versions of OpenSSH that made it not work, no matter how much we tried. Doug was too busy (at least, that's the impression I got) to upgrade OpenSSH on that machine. To top it all off, everyone ELSE's ssh access seems to have stopped working. No commit access, no progress. It's as simple as that. That's why you haven't seen any progress on this front. You'd know this if you had read the previous messages in this thread. It seems like you're advocating taking the base sources and doing patch releases. I'm reluctant to do that, because in addition to the difficulties in coordinating different patches by different people, we'd be losing valuable information; the revision history in the RCS files in the repository. _That's_ what I would like to preserve at all costs. >By all indication Doug Morris seems to be reasonable, and if he >wishes to still host nmh let him. Just give him sometime to fix >up his system(s). Well, we've already been delayed on that front since January. I'm personally at the point where I think it's time to move it. Again, I appreciate all of the effort Doug has put into nmh, and I will agree that he's a reasonable person ... when you can talk to him. I think right now he's a busy guy. I don't think there's any shame in that, but it's clear to _me_ (and EVERYONE ELSE, except _you_) that this is hindering progress at this point. >If after some reasonable amount of time, and >after people have done the work to organize existing patches and >submit new ones Doug Morris has still not fixed things then we >can look elsewhere. Um, submit new patches to _who_? No one can access the repository! I imagine Doug can, but it was my understanding that he just wanted to provide space, and he wasn't going to actually do any of the development. >At any rate the first step should be to get some actual >development going. Until a critical mass of patches shows up on >this list or nmh-bugs I think the "moving nmh" discussion should >be put on hold. You're wrong. We've had plenty of development. We needed a new release of nmh a year ago. There have been plenty of patches on the mailing list, but I personally am not going to start coordinating them until we get the repository stuff straightened out. It completely boggles my mind at this point why you are advocating keeping the repository at mhost. It's clear this has stymied our efforts at a "nmh revival"; now you want to do ANOTHER delaying action? We've already been delayed! What POSSIBLE good outcome could come from waiting longer? --Ken
