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Hi - here are responses, to the extent I can answer them... 1. The 18-21 programs that exist (in only a handful of our state's districts, but including Albuquerque Public Schools (APS) since the late 1980s) are as much a part of their respective districts as any traditional high school, alternative high school, or district-level program, so it's really each district who follows up. 2. For our current follow-up study process, the data will be reported back to the district first - don't know about disaggregating beyond that. I'll try to find out. [I do know that APS has been doing their own follow-up studies annually since 1983, and they DO break it down to give direct feedback to the 18-21 year old program.]


On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 10:02:08 -0500
 "Jane Fields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Cinda and others,

Jane Fields from MN again...so, it sounds like your procedure for follow-up with these students is similar to what MN is doing...here are my next
questions:

1. Who has responsibility for following up with the student--the district or the 18-21 program? (e.g., how do you know you're not duplicating the student if both places have responsibility for calling the student? how do
you decide who has the responsibility for follow-up?)
2. Who do you report the data back to for that student (presumably in aggregate form)--the district, the 18-21 program, or both?

Thanks!  Jane


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Hi Ginger. So if a person in the 18 -21 program is still counted as an FTE by the district and provided special ed services in the community (and have gone through some type of "graduation" ceremony, etc) you consider them an exiter? The decision in Washington is based on the FTE count. If the district still counts them even if they have gone through the "age-appropriate ceremony" then we do not consider them as having exited the K-12 system. After completing the 18-21 program and no longer counted by the district we would then do follow-up. I am curious about NM! Thanks,
Cinda

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Hi - in New Mexico districts, all 18-21 year old programs
are part of their home districts, although "based" in
community rather than school campuses.  When the
postschool followup surveys are done, those who've exited
(typically graduated with a diploma - we have 3 pathways
to our regular diploma for students with IEPs) from those
18-21 year old programs are included just like all other
exiters.

Ginger



On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:57:20 -0500
 "Jane Fields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Greetings!  I am working with Jayne Spain and others at
the MN Department of
Education on their postschool follow-up system. So, I
appreciate all of the
great input into the question posed yesterday (by Jayne
Spain from MN
through Jane Falls)!

However, I am still wondering how states are actually
including students in
18-21 year old programs in their postschool follow-up
system. Would you be
willing to describe the "nuts-and-bolts" of how you go
about including all
exiters (graduates, dropouts, age outs) into your actual
implementation of
your follow-up systems? For example, how are you
sampling the students so
that there's no overlap between the 18-21 year old
programs and home
districts (in MN, students are counted in their home
district, even if
they're participating in an 18-21 year old program)?
How do you provide
program information back to districts whose students are
accessing other
programs?  Etc.

Thanks!  Jane Fields

Jane L.S. Fields, Ph.D.
Institute on Community Integration
University of Minnesota
150 Pillsbury Drive SE
13 Pattee Hall
Minneapolis, MN  55455
612-625-0350 (phone)
612-624-9344 (fax)



Ginger Blalock, Ph.D.
Project Director, Statewide Transition Initiatives
Board President, Lifework Learning Inc.
213 Ortega Rd., NE
Albuquerque, N.M. 87113
505/400-3992   [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Ginger Blalock, Ph.D.
Project Director, Statewide Transition Initiatives
Board President, Lifework Learning Inc.
213 Ortega Rd., NE
Albuquerque, N.M. 87113
505/400-3992   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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