I appreciate what you said George,

We'll all keep an optimistic eye open to see how things proceed.

I see there is a preview version of a Phone 7 dev kit based on SilverLight and 
gaming frameworks but it seems strange to even put this out there.  It isn't 
even clear that user-deployment of applications is in the cards, at least 
initially.

Jailbroken devices don't help much if you planned to target applications to a 
mass market.  But again we'll have to watch for future developments, possibly a 
more open Phone 7 down the road.

This new platform and its tooling don't seem viable for many classes of 
application.  General CE devices may be safe for a while, since both Phone 7 
and the dev tools look inappropriate for those markets anyway.

There aren't even many non-phone CE/WM-based PDA devices left in the curernt 
market.  No telling what Phone 7 means to those that remain.

How are trends looking for NS Basic/Palm?

I get the feeling that all of the telephony-based platforms are moving toward a 
closed model.  Android may be all that remains in a few years - if we don't see 
similar changes before long even there.

I'm not dispairing, yet the trends make things look uncertain for ISV and 
in-house developers in these markets.  I have no clue where a hobbyist or solo 
user-developer will be left when the dust settles.

Bob

--- In [email protected], "George Henne" <g...@...> wrote:
>
> I agree - so far, it is not looking good for any existing Windows Mobile
> app. They will not run on Windows 7 Phone, nor will they qualify for the
> store.
> 
> NS Basic/CE is a Windows 32 app. We've run on just about every Windows
> CE device produced since 1998. It looks like Microsoft is set to break
> all backwards capability in the new release, including for us.
> 
> Here are a few notes:
> 
> - The new devices won't be ready till the end of the year. Window Mobile
> 6.5 will continue to be the only version in 2010.
> 
> - It seems that Windows Mobile 6.5 will continue to exist on some
> devices, perhaps under a different name, after 2010. There are many
> large corporations with existing software that will be better served by
> that instead of the consumer oriented Windows 7 Phone.
> 
> - Windows 7 devices will still be running Windows CE. Anybody want to
> bet how soon the first jailbreak will appear?
> 
> Microsoft is playing catch up. They scrapped their original plans for
> Windows 7 Phone a year ago and started again from scratch with a mostly
> new team. It could be that some of the restrictions are based on what
> was practical to deliver in a tight time frame, rather than wanting to
> have the restrictions. Many of the questions that Microsoft has been
> asked have been answered "Not at this time." Remember that it took a
> year after the iPhone's release for a native dev kit to be released;
> Palm's WebOS also had a delay before a (partial) native dev kit was released.
> 
> We are watching the developments closely. Windows CE and Windows Mobile
> have been a key part of our business for many years: many of you are
> like family now. We'll do what we can to continue with NS Basic/CE.
> 
> George Henne
> NS BASIC Corporation
> 
> >I had been heartened by early information the CE still lives under the
> >skin of the new Phone 7 platform.  However Simon Judge gives a 50,000
> >foot view of what was revealed at MIX 2010.  It doesn't look pretty:
> >
> >http://mobilephonedevelopment.com/archives/1002
> >
> >Ouch.  Ouch.  This appears to stymie us at every turn.
> >
> >Where do we go now?  While these devices probably won't be in consumers'
> >hands until late 2010 or early 2011 it feels like a dark day already.
> >
> >Surely somebody else can show us how things aren't as bad as they appear?
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>


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