Hi,

Maybe my post is from a newbie, but why are you pessimistic since Windows 
embedded CE gets the compatibility 
with Win32 
(http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/3/8/8382E93C-4840-435F-B856-1D2672692DEB/Windows-Embedded-Standard-7-Technical-Overview.pdf)?

Best Regards,
Marc

--- In [email protected], "michiman56" <rriemer...@...> wrote:
>
> I appreciate what you said George,
> 
> We'll all keep an optimistic eye open to see how things proceed.
> 
> I see there is a preview version of a Phone 7 dev kit based on SilverLight 
> and gaming frameworks but it seems strange to even put this out there.  It 
> isn't even clear that user-deployment of applications is in the cards, at 
> least initially.
> 
> Jailbroken devices don't help much if you planned to target applications to a 
> mass market.  But again we'll have to watch for future developments, possibly 
> a more open Phone 7 down the road.
> 
> This new platform and its tooling don't seem viable for many classes of 
> application.  General CE devices may be safe for a while, since both Phone 7 
> and the dev tools look inappropriate for those markets anyway.
> 
> There aren't even many non-phone CE/WM-based PDA devices left in the curernt 
> market.  No telling what Phone 7 means to those that remain.
> 
> How are trends looking for NS Basic/Palm?
> 
> I get the feeling that all of the telephony-based platforms are moving toward 
> a closed model.  Android may be all that remains in a few years - if we don't 
> see similar changes before long even there.
> 
> I'm not dispairing, yet the trends make things look uncertain for ISV and 
> in-house developers in these markets.  I have no clue where a hobbyist or 
> solo user-developer will be left when the dust settles.
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- In [email protected], "George Henne" <gh@> wrote:
> >
> > I agree - so far, it is not looking good for any existing Windows Mobile
> > app. They will not run on Windows 7 Phone, nor will they qualify for the
> > store.
> > 
> > NS Basic/CE is a Windows 32 app. We've run on just about every Windows
> > CE device produced since 1998. It looks like Microsoft is set to break
> > all backwards capability in the new release, including for us.
> > 
> > Here are a few notes:
> > 
> > - The new devices won't be ready till the end of the year. Window Mobile
> > 6.5 will continue to be the only version in 2010.
> > 
> > - It seems that Windows Mobile 6.5 will continue to exist on some
> > devices, perhaps under a different name, after 2010. There are many
> > large corporations with existing software that will be better served by
> > that instead of the consumer oriented Windows 7 Phone.
> > 
> > - Windows 7 devices will still be running Windows CE. Anybody want to
> > bet how soon the first jailbreak will appear?
> > 
> > Microsoft is playing catch up. They scrapped their original plans for
> > Windows 7 Phone a year ago and started again from scratch with a mostly
> > new team. It could be that some of the restrictions are based on what
> > was practical to deliver in a tight time frame, rather than wanting to
> > have the restrictions. Many of the questions that Microsoft has been
> > asked have been answered "Not at this time." Remember that it took a
> > year after the iPhone's release for a native dev kit to be released;
> > Palm's WebOS also had a delay before a (partial) native dev kit was 
> > released.
> > 
> > We are watching the developments closely. Windows CE and Windows Mobile
> > have been a key part of our business for many years: many of you are
> > like family now. We'll do what we can to continue with NS Basic/CE.
> > 
> > George Henne
> > NS BASIC Corporation
> > 
> > >I had been heartened by early information the CE still lives under the
> > >skin of the new Phone 7 platform.  However Simon Judge gives a 50,000
> > >foot view of what was revealed at MIX 2010.  It doesn't look pretty:
> > >
> > >http://mobilephonedevelopment.com/archives/1002
> > >
> > >Ouch.  Ouch.  This appears to stymie us at every turn.
> > >
> > >Where do we go now?  While these devices probably won't be in consumers'
> > >hands until late 2010 or early 2011 it feels like a dark day already.
> > >
> > >Surely somebody else can show us how things aren't as bad as they appear?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------------------------------
> > >
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


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