Hi Marc, the document you quote refers to Windows Embedded 7, and if you look at the link at the bottom of the document, you see that this system is meant for all sorts of devices, but nowhere phones are mentioned. I think George was talking about development for Windows Phone 7, which AFAIK is a different thing (how different I don't know). Thanks to Microsoft's ingenious naming, we have to be very careful and precise in naming the system we're talking about it seems! I bet the confusion is intended. Kind regards Thomas
Am 12.10.2010 um 15:58PM schrieb mlagardette: > > Hi, > > Maybe my post is from a newbie, but why are you pessimistic since Windows > embedded CE gets the compatibility > with Win32 > (http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/3/8/8382E93C-4840-435F-B856-1D2672692DEB/Windows-Embedded-Standard-7-Technical-Overview.pdf)? > > Best Regards, > Marc > > --- In [email protected], "michiman56" <rriemer...@...> wrote: > > > > I appreciate what you said George, > > > > We'll all keep an optimistic eye open to see how things proceed. > > > > I see there is a preview version of a Phone 7 dev kit based on SilverLight > > and gaming frameworks but it seems strange to even put this out there. It > > isn't even clear that user-deployment of applications is in the cards, at > > least initially. > > > > Jailbroken devices don't help much if you planned to target applications to > > a mass market. But again we'll have to watch for future developments, > > possibly a more open Phone 7 down the road. > > > > This new platform and its tooling don't seem viable for many classes of > > application. General CE devices may be safe for a while, since both Phone 7 > > and the dev tools look inappropriate for those markets anyway. > > > > There aren't even many non-phone CE/WM-based PDA devices left in the > > curernt market. No telling what Phone 7 means to those that remain. > > > > How are trends looking for NS Basic/Palm? > > > > I get the feeling that all of the telephony-based platforms are moving > > toward a closed model. Android may be all that remains in a few years - if > > we don't see similar changes before long even there. > > > > I'm not dispairing, yet the trends make things look uncertain for ISV and > > in-house developers in these markets. I have no clue where a hobbyist or > > solo user-developer will be left when the dust settles. > > > > Bob > > > > --- In [email protected], "George Henne" <gh@> wrote: > > > > > > I agree - so far, it is not looking good for any existing Windows Mobile > > > app. They will not run on Windows 7 Phone, nor will they qualify for the > > > store. > > > > > > NS Basic/CE is a Windows 32 app. We've run on just about every Windows > > > CE device produced since 1998. It looks like Microsoft is set to break > > > all backwards capability in the new release, including for us. > > > > > > Here are a few notes: > > > > > > - The new devices won't be ready till the end of the year. Window Mobile > > > 6.5 will continue to be the only version in 2010. > > > > > > - It seems that Windows Mobile 6.5 will continue to exist on some > > > devices, perhaps under a different name, after 2010. There are many > > > large corporations with existing software that will be better served by > > > that instead of the consumer oriented Windows 7 Phone. > > > > > > - Windows 7 devices will still be running Windows CE. Anybody want to > > > bet how soon the first jailbreak will appear? > > > > > > Microsoft is playing catch up. They scrapped their original plans for > > > Windows 7 Phone a year ago and started again from scratch with a mostly > > > new team. It could be that some of the restrictions are based on what > > > was practical to deliver in a tight time frame, rather than wanting to > > > have the restrictions. Many of the questions that Microsoft has been > > > asked have been answered "Not at this time." Remember that it took a > > > year after the iPhone's release for a native dev kit to be released; > > > Palm's WebOS also had a delay before a (partial) native dev kit was > > > released. > > > > > > We are watching the developments closely. Windows CE and Windows Mobile > > > have been a key part of our business for many years: many of you are > > > like family now. We'll do what we can to continue with NS Basic/CE. > > > > > > George Henne > > > NS BASIC Corporation > > > > > > >I had been heartened by early information the CE still lives under the > > > >skin of the new Phone 7 platform. However Simon Judge gives a 50,000 > > > >foot view of what was revealed at MIX 2010. It doesn't look pretty: > > > > > > > >http://mobilephonedevelopment.com/archives/1002 > > > > > > > >Ouch. Ouch. This appears to stymie us at every turn. > > > > > > > >Where do we go now? While these devices probably won't be in consumers' > > > >hands until late 2010 or early 2011 it feels like a dark day already. > > > > > > > >Surely somebody else can show us how things aren't as bad as they appear? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nsb-ce" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nsb-ce?hl=en.
