According to German grammar, the 1. casus, Nominativ, undefined
pluralis ("any"), is "Bordune". 1. casus Nominativ defined pluralis
("these") is "Die Bordunen".
Hartwig
Den 24. apr. 2007 kl. 10.23 skrev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hartvig Körner wrote:
>
> < Theoretically,
> the plural form would be "die Bordunen"
>
> According to which theory? According to both Wildhagen and Harraps
> (the only German dictionaries I happen to have at hand), Brockhaus
> and bagpipe.de it's Bordune (except in the dative. All German
> plurals end in "n" in the dative.)
>
> at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bordun we find "Bordun" defined as:
>
> 1) an organ stop, 2) the lowest pitched in a set of bells,
>
> and
>
> "3) einen während der gesamten Melodie oder signifikanter Teile
> eines Musikstücks ausgehaltenen Begleitklang gleicher Tonhöhe" [An
> accompanying sound of constant pitch sustained throughout the
> entire melody or significant parts of a piece of music] (in other
> words, a drone)
>
> and last but not least:
>
>
> "4) umgangssprachlich auch die Bordunpfeifen und Bordunsaiten
> (siehe weiter unten)." [colloquially also the drone pipes and drone
> strings (see below for further information)]
>
> So, if we want to be pedantic, "Bordun" refers to the droning
> phenomenon and the bit(s) of the instrument producing it is one
> Bordunpfeife or several Bordunpfeifen (the "n" here is the plural
> in all grammatical cases, not just the dative (German is
> complicated)).
>
> I suppose strictly speaking it's the same in English ; "drone
> pipes" produce the "drone". So we call them "drones" for short.
>
> To further complicate matters, some nouns in German can, but need
> not, add an "e" in the dative singular - so we can find, at http://
> www.mittelalter.de/shop/produktkatalog/
> Sackpfeifen,Sackpfeifen_32_produktkatalog_liste.html , for example
> - "mit 1 [einem] Bordune" (dative after "mit") [with one drone].
> Very confusing, but correct.
>
> So, to sum up:
>
> It's "one 'Bordun'" (but can - but doesn't have to - be "with,
> from, to etc. one 'Bordune'") and "more than one 'Bordune'" (but
> *must* be "with, from, to etc. more than one 'Bordunen'").
>
> And colloquially the word can be used to mean "drone (hardware)"
>
> No prizes for guessing what I've been doing for a living since
> 1974 ;-)
>
> HTH.
>
> chirs
>
>
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