On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:24:27 -0500, 
Salvatore Cimmino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:10:01 -0600,
> > "Burton M. Strauss III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> passed on message
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> from
> > Salvatore Cimmino of CLARIDION Inc.
> > 
> > > Now, due to the nature of our business model, we don't necessarily
> > > want to show DURING THE INITIAL DEMO, what kind of programs we
> > > use; we remove references to the actual manufacturer, until the
> > > customer is convinced that the OVERALL service offer is answering
> > > its needs.
> > 
> > ..<snip>.
> > 
> > > Again, what we are selling is the expertise to monitor IT systems,
> > > once the customer understands that, than we can safely tell them
> > > what kind of tools we use.
> > 
> > ..<snip>.
> > 
> > > I would definitely appreciate your comments, and, as you
> > > mentioned, feel free to post this on the mailing list.
> > 
> > ..as the salesman, _your_ job is to convince me that _I_ will
> > find your services _more_ profitable than _any_ other option.
> > 
> > ..conning me on _any_ relevant parameter here, could make
> > me as mean as any _mean_ Italian.  ;-)
> >  
> > ..to make a good lasting profit, be upfront, and, deliver.
> > 
> > ..<snip>.
> > 
> 
> Arnt,
> I apologize for sending a message to your personal mail, but I still
> have issues in subscribing to the Ntop list.
> Only recently I have been able to access the list archive and found
> your response.

..no problem, I'll cc this to the list too for you.  ;-)

> I am sincerely trying to understand any critical response to our
> approach and yours is not really clear to me.

..what is "not really clear" in my message to the list?

> Of course I sense some bad karma, especially when somebody uses the
> word "conning". Which is what motivated me to contact you.
> 
> Please, assume my good faith in this matter. It is very hard for me to
> have my honesty questioned.
> 
> Would you spend some time in elaborating your answer ? Unless you
> still think this is part of my ongoing scam to screw naive
> customers... ;-)

..if anything, in something you sell, sucks, _say_ so. 

..if I do a proper job in researching whatever I consider buying, 
and, find you hiding _any_ sucker fact from me, I dismiss you as 
"conning", and, takes my business _elsewhere_.  

> Thanks for your attention
> 
> Sal

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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