..on Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:24:27 -0500,
Salvatore Cimmino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >
> > Arnt,
> > I apologize for sending a message to your personal mail, but I still
> > have issues in subscribing to the Ntop list.
> > Only recently I have been able to access the list archive and found
> > your response.
> 

..so I, IMHO, in good faith, as requested, responded: 
 
> ..no problem, I'll cc this to the list too for you.  ;-)
> 
> > I am sincerely trying to understand any critical response to our
> > approach and yours is not really clear to me.

..if this was a "white lie", it backfired because I believed 
you spoke the truth when telling me about your list issues.  

..there are perfectly honorable reasons not to post on the list, 
there may be technical issues, and there are the other reasons.  

..since this discussion started in January, questionning a 
_possible_ GPL infringement relevant, I found, and, _still_ find, 
the Ntop developers a relevant party to the discussion, since 
each one of these, _owns_ Ntop, simply because they write it. 

..I still don't see any "bad karma" in my end of this 
discussion, but then I may be blind.


..Salvatore, list, _was_ there an infringement?


On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:11:42 -0500, 
Salvatore Cimmino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> ok.
> Sorry, I thought a discussion could be established without the usage
> of insulting language. My mistake!
> I am sorry you lost your trust in the human species, Arnt.
> 
> I wish you a happy life.
> 
> Goodbye
> 
> S.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnt Karlsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Ntop] Possible GPL infrigment!!
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:24:27 -0500,
> Salvatore Cimmino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]  <mailto:ntop%40unipi.it>
> > > Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:11:07 +0100
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> > >
> > > On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:10:01 -0600,
> > > "Burton M. Strauss III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> passed on message
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> from
> > > Salvatore Cimmino of CLARIDION Inc.
> > >
> > > > Now, due to the nature of our business model, we don't
> > > > necessarily want to show DURING THE INITIAL DEMO, what kind of
> > > > programs we use; we remove references to the actual
> > > > manufacturer, until the customer is convinced that the OVERALL
> > > > service offer is answering its needs.
> > >
> > > ..<snip>.
> > >
> > > > Again, what we are selling is the expertise to monitor IT
> > > > systems, once the customer understands that, than we can safely
> > > > tell them what kind of tools we use.
> > >
> > > ..<snip>.
> > >
> > > > I would definitely appreciate your comments, and, as you
> > > > mentioned, feel free to post this on the mailing list.
> > >
> > > ..as the salesman, _your_ job is to convince me that _I_ will
> > > find your services _more_ profitable than _any_ other option.
> > >
> > > ..conning me on _any_ relevant parameter here, could make
> > > me as mean as any _mean_ Italian.  ;-)
> > >
> > > ..to make a good lasting profit, be upfront, and, deliver.
> > >
> > > ..<snip>.
> > >
> >
> > Arnt,
> > I apologize for sending a message to your personal mail, but I still
> > have issues in subscribing to the Ntop list.
> > Only recently I have been able to access the list archive and found
> > your response.
> 
> ..no problem, I'll cc this to the list too for you.  ;-)
> 
> > I am sincerely trying to understand any critical response to our
> > approach and yours is not really clear to me.
> 
> ..what is "not really clear" in my message to the list?
> 
> > Of course I sense some bad karma, especially when somebody uses the
> > word "conning". Which is what motivated me to contact you.
> >
> > Please, assume my good faith in this matter. It is very hard for me
> > to have my honesty questioned.
> >
> > Would you spend some time in elaborating your answer ? Unless you
> > still think this is part of my ongoing scam to screw naive
> > customers... ;-)
> 
> ..if anything, in something you sell, sucks, _say_ so.
> 
> ..if I do a proper job in researching whatever I consider buying,
> and, find you hiding _any_ sucker fact from me, I dismiss you as
> "conning", and, takes my business _elsewhere_.
> 
> > Thanks for your attention
> >
> > Sal
> 
> --
> ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
> ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
>   Scenarios always come in sets of three:
>   best case, worst case, and just in case.
> 

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt,
with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry.
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.

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