"After you get an offer, in writing, from new place then you meet with your 
current manager and explain that you had hoped to have been converted to an FTE 
by now, but since they haven't you are left to assume your position there is 
tenuous at best and you have found a new opportunity that serves your best 
interest long term."

This is what I did at my current gig. What happened was, I got laid off from 
previous gig. Got current gig as a temp-to-possible-perm. Previous gig called 
me right after current gig said they wanted me to convert to FTE.

Current gig dragged their feet converting me to FTE, until I told them I had an 
offer from previous gig.

Regards,

Don Guyer
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 10:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

My advice:  Say nothing to current employers, ever.  Especially in a situation 
where they won't commit to converting you to an FTE.
After you get an offer, in writing, from new place then you meet with your 
current manager and explain that you had hoped to have been converted to an FTE 
by now, but since they haven't you are left to assume your position there is 
tenuous at best and you have found a new opportunity that serves your best 
interest long term.
2 weeks is fairly standard IME.  Finishing up projects is well intentioned and 
all, but honestly not your responsibility once you've made a commitment to the 
new firm.
I understand your sense of loyalty, but bear in mind they haven't exactly been 
loyal to you.  Companies aren't people, no matter what the .gov says.  
Companies look out for no one...IMHO.


 - WJR

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Don Kuhlman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Morning all.  Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the field.

Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job was 
supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't happen.  
However, your contract is extended several times so you are still at the 
position.  it may end in 6 months after being extended 18. The people at the 
place are really great and the environment is laid back and casual with very 
low stress.

So you keep your options open and along comes what may be a very good 
opportunity with a large well established place that is insourcing and building 
a new team right in your preferred geography.  It is also a 6 month contract to 
start out, but the company wants to make it permanent based on all information 
given.

Do you share with your current gig that you are checking into this?

Or if you don't share the info, and you get the offer, how do you tell your 
current gig so as not to burn any bridges?

And if the new gig was a go, they want an immediate start time (within 2 weeks) 
because their outsourced people doing the support are going to be gone in that 
time.  However, you are working on finishing up projects for the current gig.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

Don K





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