Wow - mind if I ask about what happened ?

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There isn't any loyalty around anywhere. I've just spent three hours dealing 
with lying, conniving recruitment agents - they should all be exterminated.


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Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 09:12:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

My advice:  Say nothing to current employers, ever.  Especially in a situation 
where they won't commit to converting you to an FTE.


After you get an offer, in writing, from new place then you meet with your 
current manager and explain that you had hoped to have been converted to an FTE 
by now, but since they haven't you are left to assume your position there is 
tenuous at best and you have found a new opportunity that serves your best 
interest long term.


2 weeks is fairly standard IME.  Finishing up projects is well intentioned and 
all, but honestly not your responsibility once you've made a commitment to the 
new firm.


I understand your sense of loyalty, but bear in mind they haven't exactly been 
loyal to you.  Companies aren't people, no matter what the .gov says.  
Companies look out for no one...IMHO.




 - WJR



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Don Kuhlman <[email protected]> wrote:

Morning all.  Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the field.
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>Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job was 
>supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't happen.  
>However, your contract is extended several times so you are still at the 
>position.  it may end in 6 months after being extended 18. The people at the 
>place are really great and the environment is laid back and casual with very 
>low stress.
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>So you keep your options open and along comes what may be a very good 
>opportunity with a large well established place that is insourcing and 
>building a new team right in your preferred geography.  It is also a 6 month 
>contract to start out, but the company wants to make it permanent based on all 
>information given.
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>Do you share with your current gig that you are checking into this?
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>Or if you don't share the info, and you get the offer, how do you tell your 
>current gig so as not to burn any bridges?
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>And if the new gig was a go, they want an immediate start time (within 2 
>weeks) because their outsourced people doing the support are going to be gone 
>in that time.  However, you are working on finishing up projects for the 
>current gig.
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>Any thoughts appreciated.
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>Thanks
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>Don K
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