When I interviewed for %dayjob%, I made it clear that I moonlight with my own 
biz. However, I also made it clear that %dayjob% would have priority during my 
scheduled work hours, and that %moonlighting% would actually give me areas of 
work that would improve what was required by %dayjob%.

When I first made up my resume that included the moonlighting gig, I wasn't 
sure if it was going to be beneficial or not, but it turns out - in my case 
anyway - that it was a huge plus as it directly showed experience and 
initiative.

On the notice thing, I'm a bird of a different feather as I'd feel compelled to 
keep them in the loop so they aren't too surprised when you give notice. 
Technically two weeks is plenty, but depending on your relationship you might 
consider full disclosure. In fact, at one point I did exactly this with my 
current biggest %moonlight% client. I thought I was going to have to drop them 
in July a few years ago, in January of that year I let them know it (leaving in 
July) might be a possibility, but that March it turned out to be unnecessary. 
They appreciated it and there has been zero fallout because they appreciate my 
work.

Perhaps that's just me. If I am alone and see a motorist pulled over with 
apparent car problems I will stop to help - my desire to "do right" outweighs 
my paranoia of being burned by it. Am I likely to get burned someday? Sure, but 
I will sleep well knowing I did right by my own standards.

YMMV.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 7:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

I'd caution you against that.  It sounds nice, and may look good on your bank 
statement.  But it will wear you down faster than you think.  You won't be 
giving your best effort to either company in that scenario.  I advise making a 
clean break if you accept another offer.
Most companies frown on 'Moonlighting' for a reason.  :)


 - WJR

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Don Kuhlman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks guys. I appreciate the advice!

And if this actually happens, then it would be kind of a win/win if they would 
let me work weekends on current stuff - that's very nice.

Much appreciated!

Don K


________________________________
From: "Kennedy, Jim" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:56 AM
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

It's not easy, nor fun but you have to answer every one of those questions in a 
way that serves your best interests. Don't do any unneeded harm to your current 
employer but assume the worse and take care of yourself.

Heck no you don't say anything. Never ever, once you do that they will always 
be looking over their shoulder. Hopefully you have expressed several times you 
want the contract converted to full time.

Once you get the gig, you tell them as best you can. You love them, you love it 
here but you need a real employment commitment for your own personal 
protection/career. You promise (and deliver) that you will help them finish 
projects after hours....document everything..help them find someone....all of 
those kinds of things.

The hard part will be if when you tell them you are leaving they offer you more 
money and the conversion to full time. I usually advise people to turn that 
down unless there are special circumstances.

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
On Behalf Of Don Kuhlman
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette

Morning all.  Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the field.

Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job was 
supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't happen.  
However, your contract is extended several times so you are still at the 
position.  it may end in 6 months after being extended 18. The people at the 
place are really great and the environment is laid back and casual with very 
low stress.

So you keep your options open and along comes what may be a very good 
opportunity with a large well established place that is insourcing and building 
a new team right in your preferred geography.  It is also a 6 month contract to 
start out, but the company wants to make it permanent based on all information 
given.

Do you share with your current gig that you are checking into this?

Or if you don't share the info, and you get the offer, how do you tell your 
current gig so as not to burn any bridges?

And if the new gig was a go, they want an immediate start time (within 2 weeks) 
because their outsourced people doing the support are going to be gone in that 
time.  However, you are working on finishing up projects for the current gig.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

Don K






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