Agreed...




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On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 10:14 AM, William Robbins <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'd caution you against that.  It sounds nice, and may look good on your
> bank statement.  But it will wear you down faster than you think.  You
> won't be giving your best effort to either company in that scenario.  I
> advise making a clean break if you accept another offer.
>
> Most companies frown on 'Moonlighting' for a reason.  :)
>
>
>  - WJR
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Don Kuhlman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys. I appreciate the advice!
>>
>> And if this actually happens, then it would be kind of a win/win if they
>> would let me work weekends on current stuff - that's very nice.
>>
>> Much appreciated!
>>
>> Don K
>>
>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* "Kennedy, Jim" <[email protected]>
>> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:56 AM
>> *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette
>>
>>  It’s not easy, nor fun but you have to answer every one of those
>> questions in a way that serves your best interests. Don’t do any unneeded
>> harm to your current employer but assume the worse and take care of
>> yourself.
>>
>> Heck no you don’t say anything. Never ever, once you do that they will
>> always be looking over their shoulder. Hopefully you have expressed several
>> times you want the contract converted to full time.
>>
>> Once you get the gig, you tell them as best you can. You love them, you
>> love it here but you need a real employment commitment for your own
>> personal protection/career. You promise (and deliver) that you will help
>> them finish projects after hours….document everything..help them find
>> someone….all of those kinds of things.
>>
>> The hard part will be if when you tell them you are leaving they offer
>> you more money and the conversion to full time. I usually advise people to
>> turn that down unless there are special circumstances.
>>
>>  *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Don Kuhlman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:52 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] OT - tips on job change etiquette
>>
>>  Morning all.  Just curious as to thoughts from some colleagues in the
>> field.
>>
>>  Say you were in a job as a contractor at a smaller firm, and the job
>> was supposed to convert to full time in a few months, but that didn't
>> happen.  However, your contract is extended several times so you are still
>> at the position.  it may end in 6 months after being extended 18. The
>> people at the place are really great and the environment is laid back and
>> casual with very low stress.
>>
>> So you keep your options open and along comes what may be a very good
>> opportunity with a large well established place that is insourcing and
>> building a new team right in your preferred geography.  It is also a 6
>> month contract to start out, but the company wants to make it permanent
>> based on all information given.
>>
>>  Do you share with your current gig that you are checking into this?
>>
>>  Or if you don't share the info, and you get the offer, how do you tell
>> your current gig so as not to burn any bridges?
>>
>>  And if the new gig was a go, they want an immediate start time (within
>> 2 weeks) because their outsourced people doing the support are going to be
>> gone in that time.  However, you are working on finishing up projects for
>> the current gig.
>>
>>  Any thoughts appreciated.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>>  Don K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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